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Of course there will be some kind of teaser. It remains to be determined as
to how much effort would go into it. I tend to doubt right now that we'd have
the whole collection available as 800x 600's on the web ala' the irtc.org.
But overall Chris C. ultimately holds the pursestrings to the whole affair...
Francois Labreque wrote:
> Will we be able to preview the content before buying the CD? (thumbnails
> would be enough for me).
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How do I prep the images for uploading? Should I put some text on them, like
my name and a title, or just send it in as-is in JPEG format?
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Always a personal stylistic call.
On most IRTC entries I find queer little logos to be an annoying distraction;
your notations on image that I've seen in p.b.x is often value-add.
Hopefully the CD will be arranged such that your identity as author will be
tracked better than your own notation on the image.
"Tony[B]" wrote:
> How do I prep the images for uploading? Should I put some text on them, like
> my name and a title, or just send it in as-is in JPEG format?
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"Greg M. Johnson" wrote:
> This is just a reminder that we are planning to close
> the upload pages on October 31st, 2001.
It's a good initiative, and I'm considering entering, but there's some of
the classifications I don't quite get.
Coder: Someone who has served on the Pov-Team or has written
his or her own patch to povray.
Honoree: Someone who has one an Honorable Mention or better
honor in a contest like the Internet Raytracing Contest.
Dabbler: Someone who has used the software for a while and can
get it to do what is wanted most of the time.
Novice: Someone new to POV-Ray.
These are not mutually exclusive! One can be dabbler, honoree and coder at
the same time. Yet there are also a big void, for example I don't think I
fit in any of the 4 categories. Also the category "coder" is misleading
because being part of the POV-Team does not imply having ever written any
program code! (Only part of the POV-Team are programmers.)
It also doesn't appear to be clear if source code for the images can/must be
submitted.
I have one image that I can't fit into the themes. Where does a dripstone
cave belong? "Landscape" is my best bet, even though it's underground...
BTW, the 2D toon style always amused me as being a independent category.
Since there's no way of doing 2D Toons in official POV-Ray and only
unreliable ways to do it with MegaPov, and as I've seen only very few 2D
Toon images made with POV-Ray ever, I foresee that this style category will
have an exceptionally low number of submitted images... Perhaps if this
happens to be the case, the 3D toons and 2D toons styles could be combined
into one style category? Just a thought.
Rune
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On Tue, 02 Oct 2001 19:15:16 -0700, Ken wrote:
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>"Greg M. Johnson" wrote:
>
>> The 10best.raytrace.com project is a benefit for the povray.org server.
>> We're inviting all povray users to turn in their own favorite 10 images
>> of theirs.
>
>Can I submit just one image?
Yes. I seem to remember a trumpet from long ago, but I'm sure you could
come up with at least ten good images.
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Well,
1) It's not about official releases of povray; megapov-produced art is welcome
to as great a seat at the table as official releases.
2) For the 2d toony stuff, at the bottom, I say "This category refers to image
processing or raytracing algorithms that create an image which appears to have
been prepared by traditional 2d processing: paint on cellulose, watercolors on
canvas." So perhaps still a tiny category, and I couldda clarified it better.
All the better, IMHO, if it's a unique and interesting-- eclectic even--
category. If that category inspires the one person who has experimented with the
technique to divulge his or her talent then the world is a better place. My
agenda for these buckets is just for INDEXING. I want the CD to have a page for
bloke interested in Landscapes and one for the guy interested in 3d toons and
for the graphic design editor looking for talent in Columbia.
3) As for experience: so pick the "higher" category.
4) Source files certainly permitted, not required. I think that (I don't want
to create a "false" persona just to check it out) the actual final upload page
says it's "optional."
5) Caves? Landscapes are: "Representations of the outdoors, planets, natural and
geological phenomenon, etc."
You have been to: http://10best.raytrace.com/tracinstyles.html, right?
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> 3) As for experience: so pick the "higher" category.
Higher? Higher what? Experience coding C, or experience making scenes?
These categories do not describe the same kind of talents. "Novice",
"Dabble" and "Honoree", seem to have to do with using the SDL to make
artistic images. But Coder has nothing to do with that. All we know
coders that are also artists, but others that never made a non-test
scene. Sorry, Greg, but I think it would worked better something
similiar to the categories created by Ethel McKey for the "Who Are We"
site:
Beginner: Just started using this software.
Novice : Knows how it works, but still have much to learn.
Intermediate: Pretty good knowledge, but I don't always get what I
want.
Advanced: Complete knowledge of the package, not easily stomped.
Expert: Can do things the software was not even intended for.
Not the best possible, but much more easy to understand.
--
Jaime Vives Piqueres
La Persistencia de la Ignorancia
http://www.ignorancia.org/
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Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
>
> > 3) As for experience: so pick the "higher" category.
>
> Higher? Higher what? Experience coding C, or experience making scenes?
> These categories do not describe the same kind of talents. "Novice",
> "Dabble" and "Honoree", seem to have to do with using the SDL to make
> artistic images. But Coder has nothing to do with that. All we know
> coders that are also artists, but others that never made a non-test
> scene. Sorry, Greg, but I think it would worked better something
> similiar to the categories created by Ethel McKey for the "Who Are We"
> site:
>
> Beginner: Just started using this software.
> Novice : Knows how it works, but still have much to learn.
> Intermediate: Pretty good knowledge, but I don't always get what I
> want.
> Advanced: Complete knowledge of the package, not easily stomped.
> Expert: Can do things the software was not even intended for.
>
> Not the best possible, but much more easy to understand.
>
Although it's probably too late now to change anything, i have to agree.
Even a simple 'beginner'-'medium'-'advanced' classification like i
suggested last time this was discussed would lead to more convincing
results IMO.
Christoph
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IsoWood include, radiosity tutorial, TransSkin and other
things on: http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/
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okayokayokayokay. lemme see what I can do...
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"Greg M. Johnson" wrote:
> 1) It's not about official releases of povray;
> megapov-produced art is welcome to as great a
> seat at the table as official releases.
I'm not sure which question of mine this is an answer to. Using quotes would
probably make things clearer than writing 1) 2) 3) and so on.
> 3) As for experience: so pick the "higher" category.
I don't see any "higher" category. But anyway, I see others have already
replied here.
> 4) Source files certainly permitted, not required.
Thanks for clearing that up.
> I think that (I don't want to create a "false" persona
> just to check it out) the actual final upload page
> says it's "optional."
I haven't seen the actual upload page because I'm supposed to make
everything ready before going to that page.
> 5) Caves? Landscapes are: "Representations of the outdoors,
> planets, natural and geological phenomenon, etc."
I guess caves do fit in there. I must've been confused by the name.
> You have been to: http://10best.raytrace.com/tracinstyles.html, right?
Sure have.
Rune
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Rune's World: http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk (updated June 26)
POV-Ray Users: http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk/povrayusers/
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