Hope some guru can help me out . . .

I'm accessing the newsgroup via my local ISP right now . . .
however, I will soon be on-the-road and using AOL to keep
in contact with the cyberworld.  The problem is . . . I can't
access POVray NGs using it.  Does anyone know how I can
access these groups using AOL as the ISP?  I do have a free
nettaxi email account that can use the AOL dialup . . . can
anyone tell me if I can start an account here using that.

Thanks . . . I've only got a week to finger this out or I'll be
cutoff from this place and into cyber-withdrawal !!!!!!!

Maybe the POVray Team can convince AOL to list this Newsgroup
and allow access . . . I can't seem to convince them ;(

Y

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yooper wrote:
> 
>   Hope some guru can help me out . . .
> 
> I'm accessing the newsgroup via my local ISP right now . . .
> however, I will soon be on-the-road and using AOL to keep
> in contact with the cyberworld.  The problem is . . . I can't
> access POVray NGs using it.  Does anyone know how I can
> access these groups using AOL as the ISP?  I do have a free
> nettaxi email account that can use the AOL dialup . . . can
> anyone tell me if I can start an account here using that.
> 
> Thanks . . . I've only got a week to finger this out or I'll be
> cutoff from this place and into cyber-withdrawal !!!!!!!

I don't know how it works, but i think some here use AOL and can access
this newsserver somehow.  In any case if you have access to some unix
machine via Telnet/SSH you can usually read these newsgroups with PINE.  

> 
> Maybe the POVray Team can convince AOL to list this Newsgroup
> and allow access . . . I can't seem to convince them ;(
> 

This simply would not be allowed, read:

Subject: News Server Acceptable Use Policy
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 20:48:18 -0800
From: Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet>
Newsgroups: povray.announce.frequently-asked-questions

Christoph

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In article <3b13cdb0@news.povray.org> , "yooper" <Out### [at] huntelnet> 
wrote:

> I'm accessing the newsgroup via my local ISP right now . . .
> however, I will soon be on-the-road and using AOL to keep
> in contact with the cyberworld.  The problem is . . . I can't
> access POVray NGs using it.  Does anyone know how I can
> access these groups using AOL as the ISP?  I do have a free
> nettaxi email account that can use the AOL dialup . . . can
> anyone tell me if I can start an account here using that.

You don't need to change anything.  AOL gives you regular internet access
which is all you need and you can access these groups without problems.  You
just keep connecting with your current news client (Outlook Express) and do
_not_ change its configuration and it will keep working exactly as it does
right now.  If you use a different system you should make sure your news
client there really connects to news.povray.org as your current one does.

    Thorsten

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You don't need to change anything.  AOL gives you regular internet access
which is all you need and you can access these groups without problems.
****
Well ... that's exactly the problem I'm having ...
AOL will not connect ... says it's not on their approved list of NG's !!!!
And I'm also having trouble getting Outlook Express to work with it.
Any idea how I make it use the AOL hookup?

Thanks . . .

Y

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> Maybe the POVray Team can convince AOL to list this Newsgroup
> and allow access . . . I can't seem to convince them ;(
>

This simply would not be allowed, read:

Subject: News Server Acceptable Use Policy
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 20:48:18 -0800
From: Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet>
Newsgroups: povray.announce.frequently-asked-questions

Christoph
****

 All I mean is . . . AOL does not allow me to access POVray . . .
it's not one of the Newsgroups that it recognizes.  I would still
have to start my POVray account but I can't get to the newsgroup
to do that . . . they won't let me go there.

Y

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yooper wrote:

> AOL will not connect ... says it's not on their approved list of NG's !!!!

The point is you don't use AOL to connect. You dial up to AOL then turn
off the AOL software without dropping the connection. Then use any news
client you want to connect to this server.

At least that's what I have been told anyway.

-- 
Ken Tyler

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The point is you don't use AOL to connect. You dial up to AOL then turn
off the AOL software without dropping the connection. Then use any news
client you want to connect to this server.

At least that's what I have been told anyway.

--
Ken Tyler
***

 That's what I'm trying now . . . I can get to the POVray server but
when
I try to synchronize, it fails. I'm using a new Outlook account to do
this
because I don't want to screw up this one . . . it's all I have right
now
and I don't want to change the settings.  I've used the same settings,
only
substituting the AOL for my normal ISP.  I have almost zero experience
with newsgroups so I'm pretty much just grasping at straws here . . .
if anyone is using this method to use Outlook Express via the AOL
hook up . . . I need specific info on what settings to use to tell OE
to use AOL.  It may be simple . . . but only if you know how ;) . . .
if you don't (like me), it's impossible to get it right without
direction.

I've got 5 days to figure it out or it's . . .
so long . . . been nice to know you. ;)

Y

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ta da .... I made it !!!!  I was right . . . it was too simple . . .
that's what confused me ;)  I reread what Thorsten said and
then started a new account with the same simple settings . . .
just used AOL in place of my other ISP and bingo !!!!

So thanks all . . .

Now the question iz:  iz there any way to avoid having to
download all of the Headers for each of the groups when I
synchronize?  I mean there are 42000 in p.b.i. alone !!!
And, I'm pretty much up to date and have them already d/l'd
with my other account.
Or . . . iz this just part of the cost of doing business ? ;)
I can use my other account until I figure this out.  If anyone
can explain how I can avoid that or steer me towards the
answer, it would be much appreciated.

thanx
Y
happy to know I won't have to go thru withdrawal . . . ;)

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yooper wrote:

> Or . . . iz this just part of the cost of doing business ? ;)

I think that about sums it up. Whenever I access with a different
news reader or on a different computer I go through the massive
download session. However, if you just want to keep up with the
times you don't have to download *all* the headers. You just
download say the last 100 or so and keep up with new postings.
When you get back home you will still have the full server
available to you with only those messages you missed while
you were away to download. I am assuming of course that you
don't plan to be on the road for ever :)

-- 
Ken Tyler

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yooper wrote:

> Or . . . iz this just part of the cost of doing business ? ;)
------

> I think that about sums it up. Whenever I access with a different
> news reader or on a different computer I go through the massive
> download session. However, if you just want to keep up with the
> times you don't have to download *all* the headers. You just
> download say the last 100 or so and keep up with new postings.

Hmmm ... how do I download only 100 headers?  I have it set
to get 250 at a time but I thought that only *displayed* the next 250 .
. .
and that all of them have already been downloaded when I did
the sync.  I know that it took a very long time just to sync the 26K
in General . . . and my HD was working the entire time. Will have
to experiment.

> When you get back home you will still have the full server
> available to you with only those messages you missed while
> you were away to download. I am assuming of course that you
> don't plan to be on the road for ever :)
> Ken Tyler

Nope . . . only about a year :)  Then I'll get hooked up again.
Until then I'll be hangin' out in the Great North Woods with
all my animal friends ;)  and learning what I can from them.
Hope to have a laptop and drop into civilization (or iz that
syphilization? ;) every now and then to hook up and touch
base with the Cyberworld.

Y

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