David Fontaine wrote:

> David Buck wrote:
>
> > I've posted my picture at the following address:
> >
> >     http://www.simberon.com/povray/access.bmp
>
> Cool! Good compositioning. Is that a word?
>
> I woulda posted a PNG btw.

I didn't have much time to do the conversions.  If you wish, you can
convert it an post it on the images news group.  It may be easier for
people to see.

I had some help with the composition from an animator friend of mine.
He's the one who designed the images for my upcoming ElastoLab program
and modeled the frog on Simberon's home page http://www.simberon.com.
He has an eye for composition.  I'll forward your comments to him.  I'm
sure he'd appreciate the compliment.

David Buck
dav### [at] simberoncom

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On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 08:18:35 -0500 David Buck wrote:

>I didn't have much time to do the conversions.  If you wish, you can
>convert it an post it on the images news group.  It may be easier for
>people to see.

  Hello, David. I've converted "Access.bmp" to JPEG (PNG was still over
400k) and posted it in the p.b.i. group for others to enjoy.

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http://www.povray.org - Home of the Persistence of Vision Ray Tracer

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David Burnett wrote:
> 
> ron### [at] povrayorg (Ron Parker) wrote...
> >On 21 Jan 2001 19:28:27 -0500, Hookflash wrote:
> >
> >Yeah.  You know Linux.  That OS that just won Salon's vaporware of the
> >year award for kernel 2.4.
> 
> Despite the fact that people have been runnig it for months before the
> award.

Erm... It came out (officially) in January!

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David Buck wrote:

> I didn't have much time to do the conversions.  If you wish, you can
> convert it an post it on the images news group.  It may be easier for
> people to see.

Someone beat me too it ;)


> I had some help with the composition from an animator friend of mine.
> He's the one who designed the images for my upcoming ElastoLab program
> and modeled the frog on Simberon's home page http://www.simberon.com.
> He has an eye for composition.  I'll forward your comments to him.  I'm
> sure he'd appreciate the compliment.

Kewl. Positioning and juxtapositioning pulls every piece together.

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Hello, I haven't had the chance to read all the replies your note has


art for sale on CD-ROM to benefit the development activities of the

slow right now as we work on an automated upload page, etc...)

But in any case I would be very interested in your donating to this project
any old DBK images, or even providing any historical ramblings on how you
had to walk uphill both ways just to get to a computer that only had lower


http://10best.raytrace.com/10best.html


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David Buck wrote:





> source to the POV-Ray team as a base system and I served on the POV-Ray
> team for about two years.
>

> seeing some amazing things posted on the net.
>
> David Buck
> dav### [at] simberoncom

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Thanks.

David Buck
dav### [at] simberoncom

Alan Kong wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 08:18:35 -0500 David Buck wrote:
>
> >I didn't have much time to do the conversions.  If you wish, you can
> >convert it an post it on the images news group.  It may be easier for
> >people to see.
>
>   Hello, David. I've converted "Access.bmp" to JPEG (PNG was still over
> 400k) and posted it in the p.b.i. group for others to enjoy.
>
> --
> Alan - ako### [at] povrayorg - a k o n g <at> p o v r a y <dot> o r g
> http://www.povray.org - Home of the Persistence of Vision Ray Tracer

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On 21 Jan 2001 21:10:31 -0500, ron### [at] povrayorg (Ron Parker)
wrote:

>Yeah.  You know Linux.  That OS that just won Salon's vaporware of the 
>year award for kernel 2.4.

Why? Any more info on this? There is now Slack 7.1 (k2.4) on another
partition on this machine mainly because a) we (my brother and I) want
to be able to watch a DVD without having to restart ten times and b)
my brother wants to learn iptables and the other goodies of 2.4 . Then
he might install it on our blind firewall box.

So, what's wrong with 2.4?


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On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:10:58 +0200, Peter Popov wrote:
>On 21 Jan 2001 21:10:31 -0500, ron### [at] povrayorg (Ron Parker)
>wrote:
>
>>Yeah.  You know Linux.  That OS that just won Salon's vaporware of the 
>>year award for kernel 2.4.

[...]

>So, what's wrong with 2.4?

Whoops, seems I misremembered it a bit.  It only took fourth place, and
it was Wired who ran the survey rather than Salon.  Here's a URL:

http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,40484,00.html

Anyway, the point is, the POV development model is a lot like the Linux
development model already: you have a bunch of people throwing a bunch of
stuff into unofficial distributions (cf. the various pre and ac releases 
of Linux) and a few people who actually control the official code and
make sure it's up to standards (cf. Linus)  There's nothing wrong with this,
of course.  Until a few days ago, this machine was running 2.2.18pre17
simply because it did what I needed, and most of my machines have MegaPOV 
installed for the same reason.

When real life intervenes, as it does all too often, schedules slip.  That's
why 3.5 is long overdue, and why Linux 2.4 was long overdue.  The GPL or
lack thereof is a different thing entirely, but the person I was replying
to didn't seem to understand that.

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In article <slr### [at] fwicom>, ron### [at] povrayorg 
wrote:

> Whoops, seems I misremembered it a bit.  It only took fourth place, and
> it was Wired who ran the survey rather than Salon.  Here's a URL:
> 
> http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,40484,00.html

And they gave Mac OS X first place...when there has been a public beta 
available for a while and a recently announced shipping date. (well, the 
shipping date was probably announced after this was written, but the 
beta has been around since October.)
It is certainly *very* late, but I wouldn't call it vaporware when lots 
of people besides the developers are running it...


> When real life intervenes, as it does all too often, schedules slip.  
> That's why 3.5 is long overdue, and why Linux 2.4 was long overdue.  
> The GPL or lack thereof is a different thing entirely, but the person 
> I was replying to didn't seem to understand that.

What I can't understand is the problem with MegaPOV or the other 
unofficial versions...or why he doesn't like the idea that POV source 
code isn't allowed to be used in anything but POV, or that distributing 
crippled versions isn't allowed.
And the insistence on complaining in spite of a public announcement that 
the POV Team is considering a different, possibly Open Source license is 
a bit strange.

-- 
Christopher James Huff
Personal: chr### [at] maccom, http://homepage.mac.com/chrishuff/
TAG: chr### [at] tagpovrayorg, http://tag.povray.org/

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Chris Huff <chr### [at] maccom> wrote in <chrishuff-I was replying to didn't 
seem to understand that.

>What I can't understand is the problem with MegaPOV or the other 
>unofficial versions...or why he doesn't like the idea that POV source 
>code isn't allowed to be used in anything but POV, or that distributing 
>crippled versions isn't allowed.
>And the insistence on complaining in spite of a public announcement that 
>the POV Team is considering a different, possibly Open Source license is 
>a bit strange.
>

Hey, I'm not complaining.  I've stated several times that I love PovRay and 
appreciate the work that the PovTeam is doing.  Perhaps I was just airing 
my opinions too harshly (I have a tendency to do that... People often tell 
me I'm opninionated;-).  Anyways, my love for PovRay far outweighs my 
dislike for it's license, which is why I've decided to stop mentioning it.  
Also, after a reread of the license and some consideration of the replies 
to my original message, I suppose the license isn't that bad.

"Strangely", Hookflash

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