I just bought the February issue of PC Plus and 
found that they have allocated a page (p.45) to
POV-Ray and raytracing.


Tor Olav
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Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
> 
> I just bought the February issue of PC Plus and
> found that they have allocated a page (p.45) to
> POV-Ray and raytracing.

For those of us who didn't or won't be purchasing that issue what
did they say ?  :)

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Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
: For those of us who didn't or won't be purchasing that issue what
: did they say ?  :)

  I suppose that it says more or less indirectly that "povray is a cheap toy
to play with for a while, but because of the lack of a good modeller and
support from other programs, it's not for professionals" ;)

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char*i="b[7FK@`3NB6>B:b3O6>:B:b3O6><`3:;8:6f733:>::b?7B>:>^B>C73;S1";
main(_,c,m){for(m=32;c=*i++-49;c&m?puts(""):m)for(_=(
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Warp wrote:
> 
> Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
> : For those of us who didn't or won't be purchasing that issue what
> : did they say ?  :)
> 
>   I suppose that it says more or less indirectly that "povray is a cheap toy
> to play with for a while, but because of the lack of a good modeller and
> support from other programs, it's not for professionals" ;)

Yeah, that's what I expect. I'm just hoping that someday, someone,
is going to go on record as saying it is one of the best raytracing
programs ever written.

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Ken wrote:

> Warp wrote:
> >
> >   I suppose that it says more or less indirectly that "povray is a cheap toy
> > to play with for a while, but because of the lack of a good modeller and
> > support from other programs, it's not for professionals" ;)
>
> Yeah, that's what I expect. I'm just hoping that someday, someone,
> is going to go on record as saying it is one of the best raytracing
> programs ever written.

Actually, the few computer magazines that write about POV are very positive about
it and not as condescending as you'd imagine. I remember a French magazine giving
POV 3.0 a 5 stars rating (on a 5 scale of course). I also know of Italian, German,
Spanish and Japanese magazines that have published reviews about POV and POV
tutorials. They surely say that it's the best raytracer... in the
freeware/shareware category. POV is not a professional graphic tool for many
excellent reasons (and the fact that it can output professional-looking stuff
doesn't mean that it's professional), and there's nothing to be ashamed about.

G.

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Hi Warp, you recently wrote in povray.general:

>   I suppose that it says more or less indirectly that "povray is a cheap toy
> to play with for a while, but because of the lack of a good modeller and
> support from other programs, it's not for professionals" ;)
Hey, I object to that statement! (the one about lack of a good
modeller<g>). 

My experience with german magazines is as Gilles wrote. They are
always very positive about POV-Ray and almost all of them have had at
least a sidebar with Moray, writing that for those that cannot or do
not wish to script, Moray is an very good alternative that can be used
instead. And Moray has also been reviewed in a very good light in that
same magazine.

- Lutz
  email : lut### [at] stmuccom
  Web   : http://www.stmuc.com/moray

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Ken wrote:
> 
> Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
> >
> > I just bought the February issue of PC Plus and
> > found that they have allocated a page (p.45) to
> > POV-Ray and raytracing.
> 
> For those of us who didn't or won't be purchasing that issue what
> did they say ?  :)

"...is distressingly addictive - I love it"

"good visualization tool"

"Persistence of Vision (POV) has been around for 
years and some amazing work has been done with it."

"Go to the POV-site (www.povray.org) for a free down-
load of and links to add-ons, artists' galleries and 
prize winning images."

"... still prefer POV-Ray"


:)


In the first half of the page there's a lathe image 
rendered with POV together with the script that 
generates the objects within the image.

Here they also talk about using a spreadsheet (on the 
enclosed CD) to calculate the co-ordinates for the 
lathe bowl shown in the image.

In the second half of the page they talk about ray-
tracing in general.


Regards,

Tor Olav
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That's neat.  Every time I get a magazine I look for any word about POV-Ray
Trace in it; bet I'm not alone.
I just got the Winter 2000 issue of Computer Arts with Maya 2.5 demo on CD,
along with their Special issue too (much the same on CD with it, Strata 3D,
Cinema 4D XL 6, etc.) and haven't seen mention of POV-Ray yet.  Maybe within
the next decade is when POV gets onstage and in the lime-light  :-)  I guess it
already is in the science sector.

Bob

"Tor Olav Kristensen" <tor### [at] onlineno> wrote in message
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> I just bought the February issue of PC Plus and
> found that they have allocated a page (p.45) to
> POV-Ray and raytracing.
>
>
> Tor Olav
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"Bob H." wrote:
> 
> That's neat.  Every time I get a magazine I look for any word about POV-Ray
> Trace in it; bet I'm not alone.
> I just got the Winter 2000 issue of Computer Arts with Maya 2.5 demo on CD,
> along with their Special issue too (much the same on CD with it, Strata 3D,
> Cinema 4D XL 6, etc.) and haven't seen mention of POV-Ray yet.  Maybe within
> the next decade is when POV gets onstage and in the lime-light  :-)  I guess it
> already is in the science sector.

Hello Bob !

(I thought you had completely disappeared. I didn't realize 
that you had started signing Bob H., instead of Bob Hughes.)

Maybe people has noticed some of the images produced with
MegaPOV. Anyway I believe MegaPOV has contributed to extra 
attention towards POV-Ray.

I have not tried any other ray tracers, so I don't know what 
kind of competition POV-Ray has out there.


Btw.: I went along and had a look at your POV-gallery again.
(http://hometown.aol.com/iotadot/gallery1.htm)

There I found an image I don't remember having seen before:
"Coffee table". I like it.

Does this mean that you have updated your site lately ?


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"Tor Olav Kristensen" <tor### [at] onlineno> wrote in message
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>
> (I thought you had completely disappeared. I didn't realize
> that you had started signing Bob H., instead of Bob Hughes.)

Never really left, just haven't been frequenting the povray groups as much.
Nothing quite like real life to hamper ones existence, and isn't that a paradox
or what?
Name change coincided with reading more diverse newsgroups so went with some
anonimity rather than full name (like it matters, ha ha).

> I have not tried any other ray tracers, so I don't know what
> kind of competition POV-Ray has out there.

Of any free ones, well, can't surpass POV-Ray I don't believe.  There are so
many I'm sure that I never see most either.  Commercial programs sure have a
lot going for them maybe but I haven't been swayed to the dark side yet,
probably because I know I'd be disappointed in one way or another.

> Btw.: I went along and had a look at your POV-gallery again.
> (http://hometown.aol.com/iotadot/gallery1.htm)
> There I found an image I don't remember having seen before:
> "Coffee table". I like it.
> Does this mean that you have updated your site lately ?

Not at all.  Pitiful.  That coffee table was done long ago, before half the
stuff there actually.  Thanks for taking another look though.  I need to get
more done so I can add to it.
Oh, sorry for the bad web page frames (AOL) which you might have encountered
while there.

Bob H.

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