Why don't we just calculate the center of Povulation (pov population) in
Europe and US, and then decide on locations?

Next year is 2000, and an estimated 3 million tourists are to come to
Israel (the holy land etc.), so why don't you all join the party and
we'll have a little party here? ;)

Well, anyway, I must remind you not to do anything between June 2000 and
2003, because I can't come.

Post a reply to this message

Speaking of open spaces, Kansas City or there abouts isn't that bad a
place of the country, unless of course in terms of nice heightfield
territory :) I was thinking of distances as the crow flies and leaving out
the extreme corners of the country to boot. But yes, I guess one way or
another it would be more like a week and a half round trip for some in the
U.S.
Yeah, I know, fear of flying. Oh well, and even after more than a half
dozen car accidents to compare with so far. But I've never gone over a
cliff yet either, and that would still be a far different thing than
plummeting several miles (sky diving or bungee jumping? no way!). Actually
it's even moreso to do with my inability to let others drive the vehicle.
I'd fly in a plane I was piloting much sooner than cram myself into a bus
or train load of people.


Lance Birch wrote:
> 
> >  How can someone living in the last year of this century manage to
> >have a hang up about planes ? I find that almost inconcievable.
> 
> There are also things called phobias...
> 
> I find it almost inconceivable to believe someone could have a problem with
> open spaces too... but it happens...
> 
> --
> Lance.
> 
> ---
> For the latest 3D Studio MAX plug-ins, images and much more, go to:
> The Zone - http://come.to/the.zone
> For a totally different experience, visit my Chroma Key Website:
> Colorblind - http://listen.to/colorblind

-- 
 omniVERSE: beyond the universe
  http://members.aol.com/inversez/homepage.htm
 mailto://inversez@aol.com?Subject=PoV-News

Post a reply to this message

The "official" POV-Ray 1.0 executable I have here is dated July 3, 1992.
So, good timing for a 4th of July holiday in the U.S. anyhow. Well,
maybe... it's actually a Wednesday in 2002. Also on Wednesday of 2001, May
16, is the anniversary date of DKBTrace 2.12 (8 years old next week),
which I suppose is the true father of POV; though someone with the
POV-Team surely knows this better. Still, the POV version 1.0 sounds most
likely to be called upon as the anniversary celebrity.


TonyB wrote:
> 
> Poor little me. Stuck in Panama. I'm probably the only person who uses
> POV-Ray in this country. Well, I taught a friend, but he prefers his 3D
> Studio. *sigh*
> 
> I can fly to the USA for a convention, but don't expect me to go to Europe
> or Australia (though it would be very cool), and much less to pay to get in.
> I don't think I could meet anybody at any non-POV conventions, since I don't
> think I can afford it. It would have to be a 'freeware' convention with no
> entry fee. OR, we could meet just outside of the SIGGRAPH convention! ;)
> 
> It would be nice if we could meet on an anniversary of POV-Ray. How old is
> it anyway? 1999 - 1992 = 7 years! OK, so let's say on it's 10th anniversary
> (day, month, and year) we could all meet somewhere. Hey, why not here in
> Panama? (...brain to Anthony... ...brain to Anthony... dream on...) All you
> would have to buy is a 2-way plane ticket. After that, things are pretty
> cheap here. You wouldn't have to bring a lot of cash. I hope to see you in
> twenty-two (2002)! It rimes. Cool.

-- 
 omniVERSE: beyond the universe
  http://members.aol.com/inversez/homepage.htm
 mailto://inversez@aol.com?Subject=PoV-News

Post a reply to this message

This sounds very difficult to pull off with any level of satisfaction.
  I envision a day when our newsgroup browsers will have a plug-in for video
conferencing. Maybe just a photo, but live video preferred, as you are
online and posting. It's not the same, I realize. Still, the starving artist
profile still applies here. :(

GrimDude
vos### [at] arkansasnet

Post a reply to this message

Sadly so. Just like Australia etc. I can't imagine undertaking such a trip
just for this purpose. Unless I'll strike it rich within the next few
years... Yeah, right.
Let's face it, the POV community is just too international. Local
conventions - perhaps. But a universal one is not likely to happen anytime
soon. If not in a video-conference form. But many people lack the necessary
connection speed for this.

Margus

Lewis wrote in message <3735ACE8.F215E5EF@netvision.net.il>...
>There is no way in hell I'm going to fly to the US. It's too far.

Post a reply to this message

Margus Ramst wrote:
> 
> Sadly so. Just like Australia etc. I can't imagine undertaking such a trip
> just for this purpose. Unless I'll strike it rich within the next few
> years... Yeah, right.
> Let's face it, the POV community is just too international. Local
> conventions - perhaps. 

Well then, there you have it. Since Lewis won't be back for a couple of years
(poor guy) I suggest he starts arranging a festival situated on the moon or
somewhere else in space scheduled as soon the average POV-er can afford such a
trip. 

But a universal one is not likely to happen anytime
> soon. 

Never say never.

If not in a video-conference form. But many people lack the necessary
> connection speed for this.

Nah. That's what you have these groups for.
> 
> Margus
> 
> Lewis wrote in message <3735ACE8.F215E5EF@netvision.net.il>...
> >There is no way in hell I'm going to fly to the US. It's too far.

BTW if anyone is interested in local get-togethers why not start organizing such
a thing at a smaller scale and see where that leads. Imagine: you've spent
you're last nickle on a ticket to the POV-convention somewhere on Easter Island
to find once you get there the whole group consists of even greater buttholes
then you had imagined.
There has been a very feeble hint of some sort of small convention on the low
lands. But that was Enschede, they would do anything there to get to a party ;-)

Groetn,

Remco

Post a reply to this message

You speak wisely, maybe moreso than you realize. Think of the cost to
travel then compare with a video conference upgrade. By that reasoning
alone a "real" conference, even at local levels, would be nonsense.
Whereas the continued useability of such hardware/software could finally
get some of us penny-pinchers into the 21st century at long last. Only
thing stopping me right now is the money I'm afraid to waste. Well, that,
and the fact I'm not sure I could hook it all up okay and actually see
anyone or them me.


GrimDude wrote:
> 
>   This sounds very difficult to pull off with any level of satisfaction.
>   I envision a day when our newsgroup browsers will have a plug-in for video
> conferencing. Maybe just a photo, but live video preferred, as you are
> online and posting. It's not the same, I realize. Still, the starving artist
> profile still applies here. :(
> 
> GrimDude
> vos### [at] arkansasnet

-- 
 omniVERSE: beyond the universe
  http://members.aol.com/inversez/homepage.htm
 mailto://inversez@aol.com?Subject=PoV-News

Post a reply to this message

> 
> Well then, there you have it. Since Lewis won't be back for a couple of years
> (poor guy) I suggest he starts arranging a festival situated on the moon or
> somewhere else in space scheduled as soon the average POV-er can afford such a
> trip.

First of all, although I *am* a poor guy, IF I get to do what I might be
doing in the army, then I'm gonna have fun.. I might work in
Intelligence as a programmer or developer, and maybe even get to be the
on writing the next-generation military 3d simulation applications. Who
knows?

What am I saying? I should face it. A poor guy.

Post a reply to this message

>Well, anyway, I must remind you not to do anything between
June 2000 and
>2003, because I can't come.

:) Getting pretentious?

Julius

Post a reply to this message

>>If not in a video-conference form. But many people lack
the necessary
>>connection speed for this.

>Nah. That's what you have these groups for.

And for real-time conversation... isn't there an irc-box for
povray?

>BTW if anyone is interested in local get-togethers why not
start organizing such
>a thing at a smaller scale and see where that leads.

Seems to me this is the only realizable sort of
get-together.

>Imagine: you've spent
>you're last nickle on a ticket to the POV-convention
somewhere on Easter Island
>to find once you get there the whole group consists of even
greater buttholes
>then you had imagined.

Add that to the fact that you're stuck on Easter Island and
you're sure to have a great time! :)

>There has been a very feeble hint of some sort of small
convention on the low
>lands. But that was Enschede, they would do anything there
to get to a party ;-)

And Enschede (do not try to pronounce this correctly unless
you're a Dutchy, it might result in serious throat damage)
is not one of my favourite hangouts either... al die boeren
:)
By the way, I believe the number (and density) of pov users
is relatively high in Holland, so it might be much easier to
realize a meeting than in the USA... I could be wrong though

Just wondering... would I really like to meet you all?
Hmmm.. I'll have to think that through thoroughly... :)

Julius

Post a reply to this message