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It's different in cyrillic, of course. The letter looks like "bI" (I hope
you recognize it). This is sounds similar.
I know that Ukrainian and Byelorussian have this vowel. I don't know about
Bulgarian.
And I spent 8 years studying Russian. I can still hardly speak it.
I blame my teachers and the school system ;)
Margus
Peter Popov wrote in message <36ce2abf.36904534@news.povray.org>...
>
>that was six years ago. Can you give an example? Also, what other
>languages close to Russian do you have in mind? I am Bulgarian, and
>that's pretty close.
>
>Peter
>
>P.S. You should probably reply by e-mail since most people here don't
>have cyrillic support
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From: Matthew Bennett
Subject: Re: Where are you? Is somebody recording this?
Date: 20 Feb 1999 08:31:05
Message: <36ceb919.0@news.povray.org>
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Bob Hughes wrote in message <36CDF51D.18A69A46@aol.com>...
>Oh, I was a bit off in my guess of 0 degrees 0 minutes West longitude,
>53 degrees 0 minutes North latitude. Thanks Matthew. Think that
>translates to around 95 miles +/- 10.
>Now for the *real* reason I'm posting here again.
>I've finished a preliminary POV World Map (39K) at:
>
> http://members.aol.com/inversez/private/lpovwrld.jpg
>
Wow - nice :)
Have you got it set up so that you simply enter in someone's co-ordinates
and the "pin" is automatically placed at the right location?
I'm really posting to suggest you put your POV World Map URL and co-ordinate
requests up as a new thread in povray.general. I'd imagine quite a few
people won't bother reading this giant thread too far - so posting this as a
separate message should get more responses :)
In terms of how "on-topic" it is, I think a request for co-ordinates for a
POV World Map is pretty well suited for "povray.general".
Good luck,
Matt
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OK, now I understand that you meant "able to pronounce all sounds" and not
"able to speak without accent" and I won't say that this is not true
(because how should I know?) :-)
Even "able to speak without accent" may be true for many individuals...
But still:
>The Germans don't have a consonant, which is pronounced like a
>"v" in English (that's the reason why the home computer Vic 20 was called
VC
>20 in Germany).
Either I have a very wrong image (if you can say that for a sound) of the
english "v", or you are wrong.
In German there is very much a consonant pronounced like the English "v",
only we write it "w" :-)
I would say that it is rather the english "w" (which is softer and with a
more rounded/open mouth than the "v") that doesn't have a corresponding
consonant in German.
The problem with the Vic 20 was not that there is no "V" in German, but that
"V" is sometimes pronounced like "F" and sometimes like "W", depending on
the word it is used in and the region you live in. And if you pronounce
"Vic" with an "F"-like "V" you get the german version of that famous
4-letter word that is so prominent in Quentin Tarrantino's movies :-)
Johannes.
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Peter Popov wrote in message <36d12f3f.38056661@news.povray.org>...
>How about this: my name is very common, I can think of at least 15
>languages that have it, and it sounds in 15 different ways.
Hey, here in Sweden they even have two versions of your name: Peter and
Petter (one with a long "e", the other with a short "e" and longer "t" - if
it is possible to have a long "t" ;-)
> Not to
>mention that my family name , when pronounced by an English speaker,
>sounds like 'Poh-pov, (the accent falling on the first, therefore the
>wrong syllable,) means, in Bulgarian, "more povish" :) as "po-" is our
>equivalent of "more" in English
Don't despair, at least you are the only one around here who actually has
POV in his name!
Johannes.
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Ok, I don't care how you say your names, but please drop in on my PoV
World Map page.
http://members.aol.com/wrld0rigin/povworld.htm
It may be annoying seeing an AOL "Thankyou" page if you send in the info
but at least that should mean it worked. Try not to "Synch" more than
one time per person/locale.
Thanks to all who have sent me lat/lon in so far, please use this page
from now on as it will also be a permanent linking page to the map as
well.
Johannes Hubert wrote:
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> Peter Popov wrote in message <36d12f3f.38056661@news.povray.org>...
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> >How about this: my name is very common, I can think of at least 15
> >languages that have it, and it sounds in 15 different ways.
>
> Hey, here in Sweden they even have two versions of your name: Peter and
> Petter (one with a long "e", the other with a short "e" and longer "t" - if
> it is possible to have a long "t" ;-)
>
> > Not to
> >mention that my family name , when pronounced by an English speaker,
> >sounds like 'Poh-pov, (the accent falling on the first, therefore the
> >wrong syllable,) means, in Bulgarian, "more povish" :) as "po-" is our
> >equivalent of "more" in English
>
> Don't despair, at least you are the only one around here who actually has
> POV in his name!
>
> Johannes.
--
omniVERSE: beyond the universe
http://members.aol.com/inversez/POVring.htm
mailto:inv### [at] aol com?PoV
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Johannes Hubert schrieb in Nachricht <36cecf0c.0@news.povray.org>...
>In German there is very much a consonant pronounced like the English "v",
>only we write it "w" :-)
>I would say that it is rather the english "w" (which is softer and with a
>more rounded/open mouth than the "v") that doesn't have a corresponding
>consonant in German.
I don't agree. I know the German "w" is lightly "blown" (angeblasen), more
than anywhere else, but the word "Wort" is not pronounced as the English
would pronounce "vort" (let's forget about the pronunciation of the "o"
right now, just for simplicity). The German "W" is still much closer to the
English (and Dutch and French etc.) "w" than to the "v". To me, a "v" should
be a softer version of an "f", like the "z" is a softer version of an "s",
or the "b" is a softer version of a "p" and the "d" of the "t".
What you said about the Vic 20 is exactly what I meant. A "v" is not a "v"
in German (neither is a "w" a "v").
--
Rudy
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On Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:39:50 -0600, Bob Hughes <inv### [at] aolcom>
wrote:
>I'm having a bit of trouble following all the places listed so far.
>Latitude/longitude anyone?
Latitude 55deg 46min N Longtitude 4deg 2min W
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dav### [at] cwcomnet
http://www.hamiltonite.mcmail.com
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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Where are you? Is somebody recording this?
Date: 20 Feb 1999 20:44:27
Message: <36CF64D1.49DFCD02@aol.com>
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Great find there Ingo, although strange thing is: no America (USA, U.S.,
North America, America, United States, etc.). Odd huh...? The country
has apparently been left out near as I can tell. Even Canada was listed
though (oops, sorry Scott McD. nothing personal :)
ingo wrote:
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> You can find your local position at :
> http://164.214.2.59/gns/html/index.html
>
> Bob Hughes heeft geschreven in bericht <36CDF51D.18A69A46@aol.com>...
> .....
> >I'm asking then for everyone to please send me any
> >latitudinal/longitudinal coordinates (guess if you can) with a
> >SUBJECT:COORDINATES to inv### [at] aolcom Although if someone can't
> >even make a good guess, keep with the nearest large town or city as you
> >post to this thread.
> ........
>
> --
> Met dank aan de muze met het glazen oog.
--
omniVERSE: beyond the universe
http://members.aol.com/inversez/POVring.htm
mailto:inv### [at] aolcom?PoV
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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Where are you? Is somebody recording this?
Date: 20 Feb 1999 20:52:12
Message: <36CF66A3.F72A5AAA@aol.com>
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Heck no it doesn't automatically render the submissions! LOL I wish...
It's pretty much manual labor ;)
You know though, I could actually do that kind of, I mean have it keep
updating a POV script file I think, not sure. Will look into that, would
take appending and don't know of that ability.
About the new message post, yes, I'll take your advice and do just that.
I had almost done so at first accept it seemed I should try and put it
with this thread. It is too large a one to find well enough, right.
Thanks.
Matthew Bennett wrote:
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> Have you got it set up so that you simply enter in someone's co-ordinates
> and the "pin" is automatically placed at the right location?
>
> I'm really posting to suggest you put your POV World Map URL and co-ordinate
> requests up as a new thread in povray.general. I'd imagine quite a few
> people won't bother reading this giant thread too far - so posting this as a
> separate message should get more responses :)
>
> Matt
--
omniVERSE: beyond the universe
http://members.aol.com/inversez/POVring.htm
mailto:inv### [at] aolcom?PoV
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http://mapping.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html
ingo
Bob Hughes heeft geschreven in bericht <36CF64D1.49DFCD02@aol.com>...
>Great find there Ingo, although strange thing is: no America (USA, U.S.,
>North America, America, United States, etc.). Odd huh...? The country
>has apparently been left out near as I can tell. Even Canada was listed
>though (oops, sorry Scott McD. nothing personal :)
>
>
--
Met dank aan de muze met het glazen oog.
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