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... or "From Delft To Hong Kong"
... or "Another Girl With Earrings"
I've tried to capture the mood and lighting of the early Wong Kar-wai
movies (and his brilliant cinematographer Christopher Doyle) multiple
times in the past - but without much success.
So here is another complete failure. I still can't get this Wong Kar-wai
feeling right. His combination of over-saturated but still smooth colors
- somehow sharp but soft at the same time is still outside of my reach.
I'll try again in a few years.
And no, the girl is not meant to be a portrait of the young Maggie
Cheung - I was tempted to try that but somehow did feel it wouldn't be
appropriate.
In case you are not just looking at HER, you might also recognize the
Chinese interior from my TC-RTC entry "Praise Of Shadows" made a long
time ago.
-Ive
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On 4-12-2017 10:20, Ive wrote:
> ... or "From Delft To Hong Kong"
> ... or "Another Girl With Earrings"
>
>
> I've tried to capture the mood and lighting of the early Wong Kar-wai
> movies (and his brilliant cinematographer Christopher Doyle) multiple
> times in the past - but without much success.
>
I know what you mean and I would not call this "without success". Maybe
one should take a step backward and just forget for a short moment Wong
Kar-wai's work. I think you approach closely enough however, you have
created your own mood and that is certainly praiseworthy. So kudos!
--
Thomas
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Heck, how did you create such a good-looking woman? Poser? Or what software
?
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On 04/12/2017 09:20, Ive wrote:
> .... or "From Delft To Hong Kong"
> .... or "Another Girl With Earrings"
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>
> I've tried to capture the mood and lighting of the early Wong Kar-wai
> movies (and his brilliant cinematographer Christopher Doyle) multiple
> times in the past - but without much success.
>
> So here is another complete failure.
Yeah right. ;)
I've only seen "In the mood for love" and that was a while ago.
My abiding memory is that the shadows were very dark.
And I remembered your other scene.
--
Regards
Stephen
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Am 12/4/2017 um 14:18 schrieb Sven Littkowski:
> Heck, how did you create such a good-looking woman? Poser? Or what software?
>
It's the Genesis 3 base figure with a morph target applied I did
sculpture in Blender.
-Ive
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Ive wrote on 04/12/2017 10:20:
> ... or "From Delft To Hong Kong"
> ... or "Another Girl With Earrings"
>
>
> I've tried to capture the mood and lighting of the early Wong Kar-wai
> movies (and his brilliant cinematographer Christopher Doyle) multiple
> times in the past - but without much success.
>
> So here is another complete failure. I still can't get this Wong Kar-wai
> feeling right. His combination of over-saturated but still smooth colors
> - somehow sharp but soft at the same time is still outside of my reach.
> I'll try again in a few years.
>
> And no, the girl is not meant to be a portrait of the young Maggie
> Cheung - I was tempted to try that but somehow did feel it wouldn't be
> appropriate.
>
> In case you are not just looking at HER, you might also recognize the
> Chinese interior from my TC-RTC entry "Praise Of Shadows" made a long
> time ago.
>
> -Ive
The eyes are really expressive!
Paolo
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I hardly ever comment here anymore, but this image made me say "WOW"
aloud :)
Without a doubt the most realistic and believable human model I've ever
seen rendered with POV-Ray!
Now, I don't know Wong Kar-wai, but if I was cinematographing (that's
not a word, is it?) this woman, I would increase the brightness of the
light a bit, put it a bit more to the left and the back, and add a
backlight to separate her from the background.
As a photographer, this picture looks under exposed, so brightening the
lights will do wonders, imho.
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That is really stunning; to me it looks 'real'. I'm a long-time fan of good
cinematography (especially from the 'old' Hollywood days), and this looks great,
as does the girl.
Cinematography as an art-form is really about illusion-- making a scene look
'more real than real', to create a mood (and to be visually beautifl, of
course.) Sadly, that's lacking in many modern TV shows and movies. My personal
favorite practicioner (now deceased, I think) is Freddie Young, BSC-- Doctor
Zhivago, Lawerence Of Arabia, and so many other beautiful films.
I agree with another comment here-- I think the girl needs a backlight or 'hair
light', from the upper left, just to add a little sheen to separate her hair
from the background.
The thing that seems to be missing from most CGI human-model textures is subtle
skin blemishes, and tiny skin wrinkles. We all have them (even with the best
movie-style makeup applied.) I'm thinking that the girl needs just a hint of
'crow's feet' wrinkling at the corners of her eyes, as an example.
I've never attempted making a realistic human face, so I have no idea of the
amount of work that goes into it, or of all the subtle details that are
required. You're light-years ahead of me!
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Ive <ive### [at] lilysoft org> wrote:
> ... or "From Delft To Hong Kong"
> ... or "Another Girl With Earrings"
>
>
> I've tried to capture the mood and lighting of the early Wong Kar-wai
> movies (and his brilliant cinematographer Christopher Doyle) multiple
> times in the past - but without much success.
>
> So here is another complete failure. I still can't get this Wong Kar-wai
> feeling right. His combination of over-saturated but still smooth colors
> - somehow sharp but soft at the same time is still outside of my reach.
> I'll try again in a few years.
>
> And no, the girl is not meant to be a portrait of the young Maggie
> Cheung - I was tempted to try that but somehow did feel it wouldn't be
> appropriate.
>
> In case you are not just looking at HER, you might also recognize the
> Chinese interior from my TC-RTC entry "Praise Of Shadows" made a long
> time ago.
>
> -Ive
It's aaaaawesome, Skin is soft to the eye, both background vase shaders are pure
madness ; ear jewels with a slightly mystical
blur create life !
but let's be even more demanding so that it can get a slight notch better if
still possible?
*did you use any SSLT (subsurface scattering on the skin? it does need a subtle
one. (but maybe more lateral/less frontal lighting would reveal it)
*The hair is slightly too thin or transparent. (but its color is soooo subtle
and perfect)
*eyebrow a little blurry could look crisper with a couple of well placed real
hair strands
angle, this avoids any squinting, however the place where she's looking at hides
this problem pretty well.
*The back window doesn't seem to provide any backlighting to the girl, this is
odd nor does its frames detail reveal weheras it seems to have a lot (maybe more
radiosity bounce from the room would help) in the same go this could correct
the next issue:
*While left background plant is perfectly lit, the one at the right would
deserve the same treatment.
*the eyes reflection is incredible, but it should continue slightly with a
chamfer modeling the wetness over eyelid's corner angle in its length.
*the girls top clothing is about to be History lever shader! ...but, something
is off, it looks a little greasy so I would say that maybe it's specularity is
too rough (widespread, not tight enough) It might benefit some kind of "oren
nayar sigma" to lighten up slightly along normal slope. Also the yellow knot
specularity looks too plastic-like.
*this scene would be perfect for a very transparent almost invisible atmospheric
media,tracing lightbeams.
Did you use our Blender exporter?
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> Ive <ive### [at] lilysoftorg> wrote:
>> ... or "From Delft To Hong Kong"
>> ... or "Another Girl With Earrings"
>>
>>
>> I've tried to capture the mood and lighting of the early Wong Kar-wai
>> movies (and his brilliant cinematographer Christopher Doyle) multiple
>> times in the past - but without much success.
>>
>> So here is another complete failure. I still can't get this Wong Kar-wai
>> feeling right. His combination of over-saturated but still smooth colors
>> - somehow sharp but soft at the same time is still outside of my reach.
>> I'll try again in a few years.
>>
>> And no, the girl is not meant to be a portrait of the young Maggie
>> Cheung - I was tempted to try that but somehow did feel it wouldn't be
>> appropriate.
>>
>> In case you are not just looking at HER, you might also recognize the
>> Chinese interior from my TC-RTC entry "Praise Of Shadows" made a long
>> time ago.
>>
>> -Ive
>
> It's aaaaawesome, Skin is soft to the eye, both background vase shaders are pure
> madness ; ear jewels with a slightly mystical
> blur create life !
>
>
> but let's be even more demanding so that it can get a slight notch better if
> still possible?
>
> *did you use any SSLT (subsurface scattering on the skin? it does need a subtle
> one. (but maybe more lateral/less frontal lighting would reveal it)
>
> *The hair is slightly too thin or transparent. (but its color is soooo subtle
> and perfect)
>
> *eyebrow a little blurry could look crisper with a couple of well placed real
> hair strands
I can see individual strands...
>
> angle, this avoids any squinting, however the place where she's looking at hides
> this problem pretty well.
>
> *The back window doesn't seem to provide any backlighting to the girl, this is
> odd nor does its frames detail reveal weheras it seems to have a lot (maybe more
> radiosity bounce from the room would help) in the same go this could correct
> the next issue:
There is no sun shining through that window. It's a frosted glass window
showing the garden behind.
>
> *While left background plant is perfectly lit, the one at the right would
> deserve the same treatment.
That would be unrealistic. The plant on the left is directly illuminated
by the light coming from the window. The one on the right is not.
>
> *the eyes reflection is incredible, but it should continue slightly with a
> chamfer modeling the wetness over eyelid's corner angle in its length.
>
> *the girls top clothing is about to be History lever shader! ...but, something
> is off, it looks a little greasy so I would say that maybe it's specularity is
> too rough (widespread, not tight enough) It might benefit some kind of "oren
> nayar sigma" to lighten up slightly along normal slope. Also the yellow knot
> specularity looks too plastic-like.
A quick look at the stitching tells me it's leather, probably painted
leather. That kind of finish is expected in this case.
>
> *this scene would be perfect for a very transparent almost invisible atmospheric
> media,tracing lightbeams.
>
>
>
> Did you use our Blender exporter?
>
>
>
>
>
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