On 6/19/2016 8:27 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>> Quite a disturbing image.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Quite!
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Well, that was the intention of course.
>>
>

All it needs is "Astonishing Stories" written large across the top. :)

It is very atmospheric.


> Fortunately, I didn't go as far as Caravaggio: Judith beheading
> Holofernes ;-)
>

Well, if you think you could? ;)

I don't think that I could spend hours setting up such a gory scene. It 
is bad enough posing nudes. I always worry that someone will see me and 
get the wrong idea.
The beheading would get them running for the police.

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On 19-6-2016 10:32, Stephen wrote:
> On 6/19/2016 8:27 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>>> Quite a disturbing image.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Quite!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, that was the intention of course.
>>>
>>
>
> All it needs is "Astonishing Stories" written large across the top. :)
>
> It is very atmospheric.

The scene needed something desolate and irreversible; the logical end 
point of a fateful process where no winners can be declared.

>
>
>> Fortunately, I didn't go as far as Caravaggio: Judith beheading
>> Holofernes ;-)
>>
>
> Well, if you think you could? ;)

No, not really indeed. I could not work weeks on end on such a topic.

>
> I don't think that I could spend hours setting up such a gory scene. It
> is bad enough posing nudes. I always worry that someone will see me and
> get the wrong idea.

I do not have too many problems with that although I think it is 
difficult to get nudity right and in a meaningful way for a scene. The 
pitfalls are too obvious.

> The beheading would get them running for the police.
>

Indeed.

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On 6/19/2016 12:28 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 19-6-2016 10:32, Stephen wrote:
>> On 6/19/2016 8:27 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>>>> Quite a disturbing image.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Quite!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, that was the intention of course.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> All it needs is "Astonishing Stories" written large across the top. :)
>>
>> It is very atmospheric.
>
> The scene needed something desolate and irreversible; the logical end
> point of a fateful process where no winners can be declared.
>

Ah well! Worse things happen at sea. :)


>
> No, not really indeed. I could not work weeks on end on such a topic.
>


Desolation is best left to the young. They have a knack for it.


>>
>> I don't think that I could spend hours setting up such a gory scene. It
>> is bad enough posing nudes. I always worry that someone will see me and
>> get the wrong idea.
>
> I do not have too many problems with that

Maybe I protesteth too much.


> although I think it is
> difficult to get nudity right and in a meaningful way for a scene. The
> pitfalls are too obvious.
>

Clothes cover up a multitude of sins.
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     Stephen

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On 19-6-2016 17:06, Stephen wrote:
> On 6/19/2016 12:28 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 19-6-2016 10:32, Stephen wrote:
>>> On 6/19/2016 8:27 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>>>>> Quite a disturbing image.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quite!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, that was the intention of course.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> All it needs is "Astonishing Stories" written large across the top. :)

In fact, my initial plan was for an Astonishing Stories pastiche cover, 
but it was not interesting enough in the end.

>>>
>>> It is very atmospheric.
>>
>> The scene needed something desolate and irreversible; the logical end
>> point of a fateful process where no winners can be declared.
>>
>
> Ah well! Worse things happen at sea. :)

Yes!

>
>
>>
>> No, not really indeed. I could not work weeks on end on such a topic.
>>
>
>
> Desolation is best left to the young. They have a knack for it.

Don't get me started. Gloomy romanticism and all :-)

>
>
>>>
>>> I don't think that I could spend hours setting up such a gory scene. It
>>> is bad enough posing nudes. I always worry that someone will see me and
>>> get the wrong idea.
>>
>> I do not have too many problems with that
>
> Maybe I protesteth too much.
>
>
>> although I think it is
>> difficult to get nudity right and in a meaningful way for a scene. The
>> pitfalls are too obvious.
>>
>
> Clothes cover up a multitude of sins.

Which, incidentally, can be the sources of interesting images again.


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On 6/20/2016 7:43 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 19-6-2016 17:06, Stephen wrote:

>>>>
>>>> All it needs is "Astonishing Stories" written large across the top. :)
>
> In fact, my initial plan was for an Astonishing Stories pastiche cover,
> but it was not interesting enough in the end.
>

I have been reading a lot of stories from the pulp era, recently. And if 
you did not plagiarise the idea ;) it would have fitted in perfectly. 
Except for the quality. :)
Simak's "A Heritage of Stars" would have been a good one except your 
combination of head and holder is the only one that would not work. ;-)

>>
>> Desolation is best left to the young. They have a knack for it.
>
> Don't get me started. Gloomy romanticism and all :-)
>

The Sorrows of Young Werther?  :-)

I must dig out a copy of Winterreise. In case I need cheering up. :-)



>>
>> Clothes cover up a multitude of sins.
>
> Which, incidentally, can be the sources of interesting images again.
>
>

With a gentle fan blowing.


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     Stephen

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On 20-6-2016 10:34, Stephen wrote:
> On 6/20/2016 7:43 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 19-6-2016 17:06, Stephen wrote:
>
>>>>>
>>>>> All it needs is "Astonishing Stories" written large across the top. :)
>>
>> In fact, my initial plan was for an Astonishing Stories pastiche cover,
>> but it was not interesting enough in the end.
>>
>
> I have been reading a lot of stories from the pulp era, recently. And if
> you did not plagiarise the idea ;) it would have fitted in perfectly.
> Except for the quality. :)

It has been a while since I read any of those, and essentially Doc Smith 
at that, so the initial idea was entirely 'graphic' and the final one 
just happened in my head as a more 'interesting' and darker substitute.

> Simak's "A Heritage of Stars" would have been a good one except your
> combination of head and holder is the only one that would not work. ;-)

That is right. Now that you mention it: "City" by same, only no 
appropriate metal monster there. Jenkins would hardly fit the bill and 
the dogs are lovable (not so the ants).

>
>>>
>>> Desolation is best left to the young. They have a knack for it.
>>
>> Don't get me started. Gloomy romanticism and all :-)
>>
>
> The Sorrows of Young Werther?  :-)
>
> I must dig out a copy of Winterreise. In case I need cheering up. :-)

With the music please! Dieter Fischer-Diskau!

>
>
>
>>>
>>> Clothes cover up a multitude of sins.
>>
>> Which, incidentally, can be the sources of interesting images again.
>>
>>
>
> With a gentle fan blowing.
>

For instance, for instance.


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On 6/20/2016 12:35 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 20-6-2016 10:34, Stephen wrote:

>> I have been reading a lot of stories from the pulp era, recently. And if
>> you did not plagiarise the idea ;) it would have fitted in perfectly.
>> Except for the quality. :)
>
> It has been a while since I read any of those, and essentially Doc Smith
> at that, so the initial idea was entirely 'graphic' and the final one
> just happened in my head as a more 'interesting' and darker substitute.
>

It goes against all the laws. So you had better have a good explanation. :-)

>> Simak's "A Heritage of Stars" would have been a good one except your
>> combination of head and holder is the only one that would not work. ;-)
>
> That is right. Now that you mention it: "City" by same, only no
> appropriate metal monster there. Jenkins would hardly fit the bill and
> the dogs are lovable (not so the ants).
>

Yes all Simak's robots were benevolent.
And well, you've got to give the ants their day in the sun. :)
You also have to respect a race, whose god is. "...a human boot kicking 
over an anthill."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_%28novel%29#The_Coda


>>
>> The Sorrows of Young Werther?  :-)
>>
>> I must dig out a copy of Winterreise. In case I need cheering up. :-)
>
> With the music please! Dieter Fischer-Diskau!
>


I'll cover your "Dieter Fischer-Diskau" and raise you the Dutch musician 
"Pierre Kartner". :-P




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     Stephen

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On 21-6-2016 9:44, Stephen wrote:
> On 6/20/2016 12:35 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 20-6-2016 10:34, Stephen wrote:
>
>>> I have been reading a lot of stories from the pulp era, recently. And if
>>> you did not plagiarise the idea ;) it would have fitted in perfectly.
>>> Except for the quality. :)
>>
>> It has been a while since I read any of those, and essentially Doc Smith
>> at that, so the initial idea was entirely 'graphic' and the final one
>> just happened in my head as a more 'interesting' and darker substitute.
>>
>
> It goes against all the laws. So you had better have a good explanation.
> :-)

Laws are to be going against for an old anarchist like me. :-)

>
>>> Simak's "A Heritage of Stars" would have been a good one except your
>>> combination of head and holder is the only one that would not work. ;-)
>>
>> That is right. Now that you mention it: "City" by same, only no
>> appropriate metal monster there. Jenkins would hardly fit the bill and
>> the dogs are lovable (not so the ants).
>>
>
> Yes all Simak's robots were benevolent.
> And well, you've got to give the ants their day in the sun. :)
> You also have to respect a race, whose god is. "...a human boot kicking
> over an anthill."
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_%28novel%29#The_Coda

Yes, that is a marvellous ending of the cycle indeed.

Talking of ants, I am in the middle of a grim human-against-ants 
campaign. Not sure who is going to win at this stage. My forces have had 
to retreat a couple of yards for lack of ammunition, and major 
regrouping - on both sides - is under way.

>
>
>>>
>>> The Sorrows of Young Werther?  :-)
>>>
>>> I must dig out a copy of Winterreise. In case I need cheering up. :-)
>>
>> With the music please! Dieter Fischer-Diskau!
>>
>
>
> I'll cover your "Dieter Fischer-Diskau" and raise you the Dutch musician
> "Pierre Kartner". :-P

Oooh! Gi'me a break! Don't you have anything (ANYTHING!) better than 
THAT?!? %->


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On 21-6-2016 13:32, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 21-6-2016 9:44, Stephen wrote:

>> I'll cover your "Dieter Fischer-Diskau" and raise you the Dutch musician
>> "Pierre Kartner". :-P
>
> Oooh! Gi'me a break! Don't you have anything (ANYTHING!) better than
> THAT?!? %->
>
>

OK. You asked for it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FfKLekwi5c

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On 6/21/2016 12:41 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 21-6-2016 13:32, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 21-6-2016 9:44, Stephen wrote:
>
>>> I'll cover your "Dieter Fischer-Diskau" and raise you the Dutch musician
>>> "Pierre Kartner". :-P
>>
>> Oooh! Gi'me a break! Don't you have anything (ANYTHING!) better than
>> THAT?!? %->
>>
>>
>
> OK. You asked for it:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FfKLekwi5c
>

A hit, a very palpable hit. ;)

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     Stephen

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