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OT - Ken, do you ever sleep. You were there last night (Aus Time) and you're
still there this morning. Or maybe you are twins?
Gordon
Ken wrote in message <36E72E8F.696DB031@pacbell.net>...
>Gordon wrote:
>>
>> Just got SEAView. Great program. I guess I'll have to organise some more
$US
>> cheques and register.
>>
>> Thanks Again.
>>
>> Gordon
>
>I'm glad you liked it.
>
>--
>Ken Tyler
>
>mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net
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Gordon wrote:
>
> OT - Ken, do you ever sleep. You were there last night (Aus Time) and you're
> still there this morning. Or maybe you are twins?
>
> Gordon
My ugly evil twin brother sneaks onto the system when I'm not looking
and get's into all kinds of trouble. If it ever appears that I did or
said something offensive here in the groups you can bet he was probably
responsible for it.
--
Ken Tyler
mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net
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Ken <tyl### [at] pacbell net> wrote:
: My ugly evil twin brother sneaks onto the system when I'm not looking
: and get's into all kinds of trouble. If it ever appears that I did or
: said something offensive here in the groups you can bet he was probably
: responsible for it.
So who's "Mr Tyler" and who's "Ken"?
Am I right if I suppose that the ugly evil one is "Mr Tyler" and the
other one is just "Ken"?
--
main(i){char*_="BdsyFBThhHFBThhHFRz]NFTITQF|DJIFHQhhF";while(i=
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Nieminen Mika wrote:
> So who's "Mr Tyler" and who's "Ken"?
> Am I right if I suppose that the ugly evil one is "Mr Tyler" and the
> other one is just "Ken"?
>
I'm guessing more the 3-headed guy in that commercial where the outside
two guys ask the lady for a phone number because they lost theirs and
the guy in the middle refuses to be a part of it. Which is funny because
it's about the "middle-man" getting in the way and I don't see that to
be the problem there. Well, sorry Ken, just had to be sophomoric a
little.
As far as avi and mpg loopability goes, think you can really only count
on it under DOS or similar, not within Windows for example.
I have the a AVI to MPG sort of thing too, a set of files to extract avi
frames then encode using Cmpeg. It's not superb quality probably because
it dates back to the early 90's.
No clue about the FLI/FLC player problem, the one I have is AAPlay and
is still okay I think. Is it possible it has to do with resolution of
the animation, not typical aspect ratio?
--
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http://members.aol.com/inversez/POVring.htm
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Nieminen Mika wrote:
>
> Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
> : My ugly evil twin brother sneaks onto the system when I'm not looking
> : and get's into all kinds of trouble. If it ever appears that I did or
> : said something offensive here in the groups you can bet he was probably
> : responsible for it.
>
> So who's "Mr Tyler" and who's "Ken"?
> Am I right if I suppose that the ugly evil one is "Mr Tyler" and the
> other one is just "Ken"?
>
> --
> main(i){char*_="BdsyFBThhHFBThhHFRz]NFTITQF|DJIFHQhhF";while(i=
> *_++)for(;i>1;printf("%s",i-70?i&1?"[]":" ":(i=0,"\n")),i/=2);} /*- Warp -*/
Who want's to know ? Do I know you. Whadda you people wannnt from me.
I'll tell you what I'm going to do to you bastaslpdkja0-9-a09-8q oj;k646
enmvmfmdkllm....
Sorry about that. That was him just now. Good thing I walked in when
I did. Never know what is going to come out of his puny brain and into
the keyboard.
As far as the Ken vs. Mr. Tyler issue goes I have found both manifestations
of this individual both friendly and courteous to others and is often seen
going out of his way to help others with nothing to gain for the effort.
No that would not be the ugle evil twin brother I was referring to. He is
neither kind nor benevolent and thoughs of such acts never occur to him.
He has more of the spam the newsgroups mentality and delights in mayhem,
disorder, and thrives in the self imposed chaos he creates for himself.
If events seem to be going in an orderly manner around him he contrives ways
to upset he balance until it matches his own sick perverted view of the world.
Anyway mom always said we shouldn't wash the families dirty laundry in public
so I will leave it alone now. It embarrasses her when I talk about him in public.
--
Ken Tyler
mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net
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Bob Hughes wrote in message <36E### [at] aolcom>...
>Nieminen Mika wrote:
>> So who's "Mr Tyler" and who's "Ken"?
>> Am I right if I suppose that the ugly evil one is "Mr Tyler" and the
>> other one is just "Ken"?
>>
>
>I'm guessing more the 3-headed guy in that commercial where the outside
>two guys ask the lady for a phone number because they lost theirs and
>the guy in the middle refuses to be a part of it. Which is funny because
>it's about the "middle-man" getting in the way and I don't see that to
>be the problem there. Well, sorry Ken, just had to be sophomoric a
>little.
>
>As far as avi and mpg loopability goes, think you can really only count
>on it under DOS or similar, not within Windows for example.
>I have the a AVI to MPG sort of thing too, a set of files to extract avi
>frames then encode using Cmpeg. It's not superb quality probably because
>it dates back to the early 90's.
>No clue about the FLI/FLC player problem, the one I have is AAPlay and
>is still okay I think. Is it possible it has to do with resolution of
>the animation, not typical aspect ratio?
I figured it out. It was the new 24-bit format that DTA was producing. I got
Daves player and all is fine.
As far as the quality thing goes, I think it just a matter of fiddling the
settings. The looping thing is definitely the player, as you said, a DOS
player is much better.
Thanks
Gordon
>
>
>--
> omniVERSE: beyond the universe
> http://members.aol.com/inversez/POVring.htm
> mailto:inv### [at] aolcom?PoV
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On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:33:46 +0800, "Gordon"
<gbe### [at] birdcameroncomau> wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>I have a couple of questions regarding animation files. I used to do
>everything with FLI files until recently, using an old copy of DTA(1992?).
>
>I just got the new version and it is great. I now make AVI files. They are
>much more compact and are full colour. But, how can I make them loop cleanly
>like a FLI. I believe this is to do with the player, it has a pause between
>the end and the start when you turn on looping. Are there any players that
>will cleanly loop an AVI file? Also can anyone suggest a player that stays
>open after playing the file, or defaults to looping on open. I find I double
>click on a file to try it and it disappears before you even see it.
First off - not looping round to the start of an AVI is either going
to be a problem with the animation (not using the Cyclic option, or
not returning objects to their original locations - nearly - by the
end of the animation etc. etc.) or it's going to be a RAM problem.
windows loves RAM, pretty much the mre the merrier (although IIRC
there are problems at the 1 or 2 GB boundaries... but that isn't an
issue for most of us).
Windows's media player can be set t loop video files (BTW do you have
Media Player2 ? Free update from MS). Try opening a video file
(perhaps use right-click in Explorer and select "Open" rather than
"play" or double-clicking). Once it's loaded select "Options" from the
"View" menu. You should be able to set continuous looping (or replay)
from there.
Just to make things simple, Media Player was superceeded by
ActiveMovie, which has now been superceeded by Media Player 2.
Obvious, relaly...
Sorry - can't help with anything else.
Cheers,
Cliff Bowman
Why not pay my 3D Dr Who site a visit at
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Dimension/7855/
PS change ".duffnet" to ".net" if replying via e-mail
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Thanks for the suggestions Cliff. I found that it was the player, it is
basically harder to play AVIs than FLIs as FLIs are (or can be) specifically
built to loop quickly. That is the file structure, not the animation itself.
My animations were looping perfectly as FLIs, but when I created AVIs, there
was a stutter at the loop point. The frames were still OK, it was just the
replay rate sags a shade when it rewinds. (I am something of a perfectionist
on this sort of stuff and love creating loops where you can't see the join
and trying to make them look longer than they really are!)
Thanks
Gordon
Cliff Bowman wrote in message <36e7c95e.64291138@news.povray.org>...
>On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:33:46 +0800, "Gordon"
><gbe### [at] birdcameroncomau> wrote:
>
>>Hi All,
>>
>>I have a couple of questions regarding animation files. I used to do
>>everything with FLI files until recently, using an old copy of DTA(1992?).
>>
>>I just got the new version and it is great. I now make AVI files. They are
>>much more compact and are full colour. But, how can I make them loop
cleanly
>>like a FLI. I believe this is to do with the player, it has a pause
between
>>the end and the start when you turn on looping. Are there any players that
>>will cleanly loop an AVI file? Also can anyone suggest a player that stays
>>open after playing the file, or defaults to looping on open. I find I
double
>>click on a file to try it and it disappears before you even see it.
>
>First off - not looping round to the start of an AVI is either going
>to be a problem with the animation (not using the Cyclic option, or
>not returning objects to their original locations - nearly - by the
>end of the animation etc. etc.) or it's going to be a RAM problem.
>windows loves RAM, pretty much the mre the merrier (although IIRC
>there are problems at the 1 or 2 GB boundaries... but that isn't an
>issue for most of us).
>
>Windows's media player can be set t loop video files (BTW do you have
>Media Player2 ? Free update from MS). Try opening a video file
>(perhaps use right-click in Explorer and select "Open" rather than
>"play" or double-clicking). Once it's loaded select "Options" from the
>"View" menu. You should be able to set continuous looping (or replay)
>from there.
>
>Just to make things simple, Media Player was superceeded by
>ActiveMovie, which has now been superceeded by Media Player 2.
>Obvious, relaly...
>
>Sorry - can't help with anything else.
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>Cliff Bowman
>Why not pay my 3D Dr Who site a visit at
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Dimension/7855/
>PS change ".duffnet" to ".net" if replying via e-mail
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This problem has annoyed me too recently. I have taken to designing looping animations
that accelerate/decelerate so that they pause as the player loops. This looks
perfectly
natural, although not applicable in all cases.
---------
Andy
Gordon wrote in message <36e85b4f.0@news.povray.org>...
>Thanks for the suggestions Cliff. I found that it was the player, it is
>basically harder to play AVIs than FLIs as FLIs are (or can be) specifically
>built to loop quickly. That is the file structure, not the animation itself.
>My animations were looping perfectly as FLIs, but when I created AVIs, there
>was a stutter at the loop point. The frames were still OK, it was just the
>replay rate sags a shade when it rewinds. (I am something of a perfectionist
>on this sort of stuff and love creating loops where you can't see the join
>and trying to make them look longer than they really are!)
>
>Thanks
>Gordon
>
>Cliff Bowman wrote in message <36e7c95e.64291138@news.povray.org>...
>>On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:33:46 +0800, "Gordon"
>><gbe### [at] birdcameroncomau> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi All,
>>>
>>>I have a couple of questions regarding animation files. I used to do
>>>everything with FLI files until recently, using an old copy of DTA(1992?).
>>>
>>>I just got the new version and it is great. I now make AVI files. They are
>>>much more compact and are full colour. But, how can I make them loop
>cleanly
>>>like a FLI. I believe this is to do with the player, it has a pause
>between
>>>the end and the start when you turn on looping. Are there any players that
>>>will cleanly loop an AVI file? Also can anyone suggest a player that stays
>>>open after playing the file, or defaults to looping on open. I find I
>double
>>>click on a file to try it and it disappears before you even see it.
>>
>>First off - not looping round to the start of an AVI is either going
>>to be a problem with the animation (not using the Cyclic option, or
>>not returning objects to their original locations - nearly - by the
>>end of the animation etc. etc.) or it's going to be a RAM problem.
>>windows loves RAM, pretty much the mre the merrier (although IIRC
>>there are problems at the 1 or 2 GB boundaries... but that isn't an
>>issue for most of us).
>>
>>Windows's media player can be set t loop video files (BTW do you have
>>Media Player2 ? Free update from MS). Try opening a video file
>>(perhaps use right-click in Explorer and select "Open" rather than
>>"play" or double-clicking). Once it's loaded select "Options" from the
>>"View" menu. You should be able to set continuous looping (or replay)
>>from there.
>>
>>Just to make things simple, Media Player was superceeded by
>>ActiveMovie, which has now been superceeded by Media Player 2.
>>Obvious, relaly...
>>
>>Sorry - can't help with anything else.
>>
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Cliff Bowman
>>Why not pay my 3D Dr Who site a visit at
>http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Dimension/7855/
>>PS change ".duffnet" to ".net" if replying via e-mail
>
>
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On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 00:13:37 -0000, "Andrew Cocker"
<and### [at] acockerfreeservecouk> wrote:
>This problem has annoyed me too recently. I have taken to designing looping
animations
>that accelerate/decelerate so that they pause as the player loops. This looks
perfectly
>natural, although not applicable in all cases.
>
If that isn't a telling comment (or a sad indictment) of Windows and
it's various "features" then I don't know what is!
Cheers,
Cliff Bowman
Why not pay my 3D Dr Who site a visit at
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Dimension/7855/
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