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From: ahed4
Subject: just an annoying neewbie question
Date: 17 Dec 2002 17:00:08
Message: <web.3dff9d7722384ac442b38d5c0@news.povray.org>
hi there

just begun tracing wit POV and as it is EXTREMELY unfamiliar not having a
GUI i started to learn scripting, but it slows down badly. so id like to
ask if there are any GUI extensions out there that a re good (except for
mooray since i guess you gotta pay for it) ?
bye


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From: hughes, b 
Subject: Re: just an annoying neewbie question
Date: 17 Dec 2002 17:35:33
Message: <3dffa6b5@news.povray.org>
"ahed4" <ahe### [at] ahed4com> wrote in message
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>
> just begun tracing wit POV and as it is EXTREMELY unfamiliar not having a
> GUI i started to learn scripting, but it slows down badly. so id like to
> ask if there are any GUI extensions out there that a re good (except for
> mooray since i guess you gotta pay for it) ?

Some free modelers for Windows that render out to POV I know of:

HamaPatch
http://www.geocities.com/hamapatch/program/

POVlab
http://www.povlab.org

AC3D (trial)
http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/graphics/ac3d/ac3d.html

And you might want to look through the POV-Ray Resources links too.
http://www.povray.org/resources/links/3D_Programs/Modelling_Programs/

It's advisable to learn the POV-Ray language anyhow, since much of what can
be done is not always possible or easy from an external program.


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From: Jim Kress
Subject: Re: just an annoying neewbie question
Date: 17 Dec 2002 21:33:44
Message: <3dffde88$1@news.povray.org>
Any idea what I get for the extra $$$ when one gets Moray rather than AC3D?

Jim

"hughes, b." <omn### [at] charternet> wrote in message
news:3dffa6b5@news.povray.org...
> "ahed4" <ahe### [at] ahed4com> wrote in message
> news:web.3dff9d7722384ac442b38d5c0@news.povray.org...
> >
> > just begun tracing wit POV and as it is EXTREMELY unfamiliar not having
a
> > GUI i started to learn scripting, but it slows down badly. so id like to
> > ask if there are any GUI extensions out there that a re good (except for
> > mooray since i guess you gotta pay for it) ?
>
> Some free modelers for Windows that render out to POV I know of:
>
> HamaPatch
> http://www.geocities.com/hamapatch/program/
>
> POVlab
> http://www.povlab.org
>
> AC3D (trial)
> http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/graphics/ac3d/ac3d.html
>
> And you might want to look through the POV-Ray Resources links too.
> http://www.povray.org/resources/links/3D_Programs/Modelling_Programs/
>
> It's advisable to learn the POV-Ray language anyhow, since much of what
can
> be done is not always possible or easy from an external program.
>
>


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From: Txemi Jendrix
Subject: RE: just an annoying neewbie question
Date: 17 Dec 2002 21:43:53
Message: <3dffe0e9@news.povray.org>

web.3dff9d7722384ac442b38d5c0@news.povray.org...
> (except for moray since i guess you gotta pay for it)

Moray is shareware, but it's completely functional
untill you decide to register, so you can work with
it more than the habitual 30 days.
And it's the best GUI for povray that exists, aswell
as it's improving its modelling capabilities including
a mesh modeller (now in beta version).
IMO it's also a good way to learn povray.
Bye.

Txemi Jendrix
http://www.txemijendrix.com


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: just an annoying neewbie question
Date: 17 Dec 2002 22:39:05
Message: <3DFFEE69.16447CF2@pacbell.net>
Jim Kress wrote:
> 
> Any idea what I get for the extra $$$ when one gets Moray rather than AC3D?

I have seen a lot of POV-Ray modelling programs come and go over the years and
the one thing that Moray has going for it is longevity. Lutz has shown a long
term dedication to improving his program and his customer support is exemplary.
You can also add in that Moray offer more direct support for POV-Ray's many
features than any other program of its type, plus new features are added on a
fairly regular basis. Were I not a hand coder Moray would be my first and only
choice for the reasons stated above.

-- 
Ken Tyler


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From: LibraryMan
Subject: Re: just an annoying neewbie question
Date: 18 Dec 2002 10:40:05
Message: <3E0096F3.A632C27D@att.net>
Txemi Jendrix wrote:

> 
> Moray is shareware, but it's completely functional
> untill you decide to register, so you can work with
> it more than the habitual 30 days.

*gasp* Scandalous suggestion!  ;-)


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From: Patrick Elliott
Subject: Re: just an annoying neewbie question
Date: 18 Dec 2002 15:28:50
Message: <MPG.186a8608fbb655bf9896e8@news.povray.org>
In article <web.3dff9d7722384ac442b38d5c0@news.povray.org>, 
ahe### [at] ahed4com says...
> hi there
> 
> just begun tracing wit POV and as it is EXTREMELY unfamiliar not having a
> GUI i started to learn scripting, but it slows down badly. so id like to
> ask if there are any GUI extensions out there that a re good (except for
> mooray since i guess you gotta pay for it) ?
> bye
> 
> 
There is also Breeze Designer at http://www.imagos.fl.net.au/

However, the last post for news on it was 8-29-1999. However, it provides 
most everything that Moray does and what I felt was a less complicated 
interface, but Moray does have paying customers behind it pushing the 
design. Breeze as near as I can tell went the, "its free, but only I get 
to write any code for it", approach, which rarely works in the long run 
if competition exists.

I always found it a bit annoying that no one ever started a free GUI 
modeller project with the same open development as POVRay itself, but 
since half the people don't use them and many others are satisfied with 
Moray's quirks (like using the 'technically' wrong axis alignments and 
only allowing one rotation/translation order..), no group effort seems to 
have been attempted.


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From: Txemi Jendrix
Subject: RE: just an annoying neewbie question
Date: 18 Dec 2002 16:45:59
Message: <3e00ec97@news.povray.org>

3E0096F3.A632C27D@att.net...
> > Moray is shareware, but it's completely functional
> > untill you decide to register, so you can work with
> > it more than the habitual 30 days.
>
> *gasp* Scandalous suggestion!  ;-)

Sure it is, but I fear that everyone that has registered his
Moray copy, has been working with the unregistered
version much more than the mandatory 30 days.
I did it also (sorry Lutz ;-)
Perhaps that's the reason why Moray is the only
shareware program I have bought in all of my life
(and never regreted my decission).
The rest of the programs I use are freeware or
I have obtained them with a cd from a magazine.
Bye

Txemi Jendrix
http://www.txemijendrix.com


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: just an annoying neewbie question
Date: 18 Dec 2002 20:47:07
Message: <3E0125AF.B0325AA1@pacbell.net>
Patrick Elliott wrote:

> I always found it a bit annoying that no one ever started a free GUI
> modeller project with the same open development as POVRay itself,

That's not entirely true. In fact there have been at least two 'attempts'
at open source modelling programs for POV-Ray that I am aware of but they
both failed for various reasons. POVLAB, which had a sizable user base at
one time, was released by it's author as open source over three years ago
yet no one has touched it since. Why? Don't know, but it seems it takes a
rare group of individuals to take on an open source project and provide the
long term dedication and resources necessary to keep it alive. The POV-Ray
developers deserve a lot of credit in that regard.

-- 
Ken Tyler


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From: ABX
Subject: Re: just an annoying neewbie question
Date: 19 Dec 2002 05:08:43
Message: <id630voo4il47tu6b8m2p2ofc1g5q733g1@4ax.com>
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 13:18:37 -0700, Patrick Elliott <sha### [at] hotmailcom>
wrote:
> I always found it a bit annoying that no one ever started a free GUI 
> modeller project with the same open development as POVRay itself

IIRC GUI of MacMegaPOV had some features of modeller builded. I want try to
move some of them to Windows GUI in the future but this subject was not
discuted much with Yvo & Rene Smellenbergs yet.

ABX


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