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From: Daniel Matthews
Subject: Re: Linux GUI for POV 3.5?
Date: 27 Aug 2001 21:54:27
Message: <1048538.uN5g19fmA1@3-e.net>
What about an add-on to JEdit, being cross platform helps too.
http://www.jedit.org/

I was VERY impressed with this editor, if you try it out don't forget to 
have it auto download and install all the available plugins.

It is a very WinPOV like in some ways, but better as an editor.
Line numbers, folding etc...

Warp wrote:

> Sebastian Holtermann <Van### [at] gmxde> wrote:
> : Will there be a GUI for XWindows in Povray 3.5?
> 
>   Why make a GUI nobody will use anyways? (I wouldn't certainly use it
>   unless
> it had all the features emacs has; and if it had, how would it be
> different from emacs anyways? A couple of buttons... Big deal.)
> 
>   And see:
>   http://www.students.tut.fi/~warp/povVFAQ/miscVFAQ.html#guiforunix
>


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Linux GUI for POV 3.5?
Date: 28 Aug 2001 06:53:54
Message: <3b8b7842@news.povray.org>
Daniel Matthews <lig### [at] bigpondnetau> wrote:
: What about an add-on to JEdit

  Feel free to make one.

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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: Linux GUI for POV 3.5?
Date: 28 Aug 2001 08:08:23
Message: <3B8B89B5.98B5F29B@ignorancia.org>

> 
> Sebastian Holtermann <Van### [at] gmxde> wrote:
> : Will there be a GUI for XWindows in Povray 3.5?
> 
>   Why make a GUI nobody will use anyways? (I wouldn't certainly use it unless
> it had all the features emacs has; and if it had, how would it be different
> from emacs anyways? A couple of buttons... Big deal.)

  Well, I'm even more rustic, and simply use the same window manager as
GUI, typing the command line on a terminal window. But there is
something on the windows GUI that not even Emacs can give you: partial
rendering of a selected region on the last output window. That's, for
me, the only useful missing feature... unless you have a special talent
for figuring out +sc, +ec, +sr and +er percentages quickly (which seems
I'm slowly developing).

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Linux GUI for POV 3.5?
Date: 28 Aug 2001 08:41:49
Message: <3b8b918c@news.povray.org>
Jaime Vives Piqueres <jai### [at] ignoranciaorg> wrote:
: unless you have a special talent
: for figuring out +sc, +ec, +sr and +er percentages quickly (which seems
: I'm slowly developing).

  Of course that's one of the nice features WinPOV has.
  But as you said, you can learn to use the command line parameters without
too much trouble. They are specially easier to use with the percentage form
(ie. +sr.5 +er.8 etc).

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#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: Adrien Beau
Subject: Re: Linux GUI for POV 3.5?
Date: 28 Aug 2001 08:58:00
Message: <3B8B9562.5C84647F@sycomore.fr>
Warp wrote:
> 
> Jaime Vives Piqueres <jai### [at] ignoranciaorg> wrote:
> : unless you have a special talent
> : for figuring out +sc, +ec, +sr and +er percentages quickly (which seems
> : I'm slowly developing).
> 
>   Of course that's one of the nice features WinPOV has.
>   But as you said, you can learn to use the command line parameters without
> too much trouble. They are specially easier to use with the percentage form
> (ie. +sr.5 +er.8 etc).

And perhaps a so-small addition to the X display of the image
while it renders (and once it is finished) would be to output
the coordinates of any user-selected region on stdout or
something similar.

Then all Unix users would be all happy to feed the coordinates
into a script of their own in order to re-render that part
of the image. And even zooming on it, who knows?

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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Linux GUI for POV 3.5?
Date: 28 Aug 2001 13:52:37
Message: <slrn9omr3i.vch.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 11:54:04 +1000, Daniel Matthews wrote:

>It is a very WinPOV like in some ways, but better as an editor.
>Line numbers, folding etc...

You get that in emacs, and emacs is cross platform too. 

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From: Daniel Matthews
Subject: Re: Linux GUI for POV 3.5?
Date: 28 Aug 2001 19:21:05
Message: <3917175.L8zNpBrTj2@3-e.net>
Was playing with it yesterday and found it has a POV mode for syntax 
highlighting! Must find author of mode....

Warp wrote:

> Daniel Matthews <lig### [at] bigpondnetau> wrote:
> : What about an add-on to JEdit
> 
>   Feel free to make one.
>


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From: Vahur Krouverk
Subject: Re: Linux GUI for POV 3.5?
Date: 29 Aug 2001 13:05:03
Message: <3B8D21E1.E3F36183@comtrade.ee>
Sebastian Holtermann wrote:
> 
> Will there be a GUI for XWindows in Povray 3.5?
> (Maybe Gtk/Qt/etc.)
> --
> Sebastian H.

How about Java GUI for POV-Ray, which could run on XWindows and Windows?
I don't think, that slowliness of Java would be problem for GUI
front-end (although its memory consumption probably would...)
Of course Java poses its own problems, but it is probably more
widespread (i.e. installed in more computers) than above mentioned
packages.


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From: Daniel Matthews
Subject: Re: Linux GUI for POV 3.5?
Date: 29 Aug 2001 17:43:09
Message: <1875216.0gbHreEdlv@3-e.net>
That is why I mentioned Jedit.
There is also a Java 3d modeler called Art of Illusion that could be merged 
with Jedit, the Java front-end could then call the POV and GIMP engines.
being able to mix modeled and hand coded POV instructions at the same time 
would be really cool, I know of no other software that lets you do this.

Such a hybrid Java front-end would provide a very complete cross platform 
package. Having a POV<->GIMP interaction under code control would open up a 
whole world of possibilities, inc the pre-rendering of static procedural 
textures, which has been shown to give a large speed up to multi-frame 
renderings, i.e. animation. (see SIGGRAPH 2001 papers )

Vahur Krouverk wrote:

> 
> 
> Sebastian Holtermann wrote:
>> 
>> Will there be a GUI for XWindows in Povray 3.5?
>> (Maybe Gtk/Qt/etc.)
>> --
>> Sebastian H.
> 
> How about Java GUI for POV-Ray, which could run on XWindows and Windows?
> I don't think, that slowliness of Java would be problem for GUI
> front-end (although its memory consumption probably would...)
> Of course Java poses its own problems, but it is probably more
> widespread (i.e. installed in more computers) than above mentioned
> packages.


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From: Adrien Beau
Subject: Re: Linux GUI for POV 3.5?
Date: 30 Aug 2001 07:17:37
Message: <3B8E20DB.4A65355@sycomore.fr>
Vahur Krouverk wrote:
> 
> How about Java GUI for POV-Ray, which could run on XWindows and Windows?

Well, Netbeans is just waiting for you to write a new module!

Netbeans is an all-Java Java editor. While this basically just
not appeals to me, it has a good debugger that I like to use.

And more importantly, it's heavily modularized, so added support
for POV files should not be that hard.

Netbeans used to be a private Sun program, but now they've followed
the way of Netscape. They let the community develop the core of the


http://www.netbeans.org/ for more info.

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