On Sat, 07 Jul 2001 13:06:54 -0700, "October" <ext### [at] yahoocom>
wrote:

>I'm not an experienced user with Linux yet so I still find it much easier
>to boot into windows and use the provided GUI editor there.

There are at least four tools that provide about the same
functionality as the Windows GUI:

1. vim and more precisely gvim (requires X and any of motif, athena or
gtk)
2. SciTE (requires gtk)
3. Emacs (even better, XEmacs)
4. Wine :)

The first three have POV modes available. Some are outdated, some are
better. The fourth one... no comment :)


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Peter Popov wrote:
> 
> There are at least four tools that provide about the same
> functionality as the Windows GUI:
> 
> 1. vim and more precisely gvim (requires X and any of motif, athena or
> gtk)
> 2. SciTE (requires gtk)
> 3. Emacs (even better, XEmacs)
> 4. Wine :)
> 
> The first three have POV modes available. Some are outdated, some are
> better. The fourth one... no comment :)
> 

I use NEdit (www.nedit.org). It's a fine editor overall, and teaching it
POV syntax is really easy. I haven't checked where it stores the
language templates, but I'll look it up and post it if someone's
interested.
Also, in my experience the POVWin editor runs quite OK under Wine; don't
go rendering with it though ;)

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Peter Popov <pet### [at] vipbg> wrote:
: 3. Emacs (even better, XEmacs)

  Does XEmacs already support pc-selection-mode?
  That's one of the main reasons why I haven't been using it.

  And besides, is there any considerable difference betweem the two
anyways?

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On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 23:08:39 +0200, Sebastian Holtermann wrote:
>
>> I find myself booting into windows for only TWO things anymore:
>> 
>> playing games (WINE has potential but isn't there quite yet)
>> working with PoVray
>
>These are the only two reasons to boot windows for me, too.
>Nice to see other people share my situation ;-).

That's strange, I made the switch to linux so that my POV would
benefit, since Dec 1999 I havn't used Windows or DOS for anything. 

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Peter Popov wrote:
> 
> 1. vim and more precisely gvim (requires X and any of motif, athena or
> gtk)

Vim actually works everywhere, so it's the only editor I use,
both on various Linuces, Windows and Unices. I had an
opportunity to have it run under VMS, but didn't take it.

Emacs works under Windows, too. Who said you *had* to be lost
when switching to another OS?  :-)

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On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 01:06:39 +0300, Margus Ramst <mar### [at] peakeduee>
wrote:

>I use NEdit (www.nedit.org). It's a fine editor overall, and teaching it
>POV syntax is really easy. I haven't checked where it stores the
>language templates, but I'll look it up and post it if someone's
>interested.

Yeah, I missed that one. I have it somewhere around here, but I forgot
if it was the Windows or *x version, since IIRC both are available.

>Also, in my experience the POVWin editor runs quite OK under Wine; don't
>go rendering with it though ;)

Yup. Wine goes as far as reproducing that Windows bug with
StretchDIBits. Talk about compatibility :)


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On 9 Jul 2001 20:25:05 -0400, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:

>Peter Popov <pet### [at] vipbg> wrote:
>: 3. Emacs (even better, XEmacs)
>
>  Does XEmacs already support pc-selection-mode?
>  That's one of the main reasons why I haven't been using it.
>
>  And besides, is there any considerable difference betweem the two
>anyways?

Aside from fonts and being able to use bold/italics and the X
clipboard, I don't think so.


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Steve wrote:

> On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 23:08:39 +0200, Sebastian Holtermann wrote:
>>
>>> I find myself booting into windows for only TWO things anymore:
>>> 
>>> playing games (WINE has potential but isn't there quite yet)
>>> working with PoVray
>>
>>These are the only two reasons to boot windows for me, too.
>>Nice to see other people share my situation ;-).
> 
> That's strange, I made the switch to linux so that my POV would
> benefit, since Dec 1999 I havn't used Windows or DOS for anything.
> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> 

For povray-rendering i like linux more than windows 
(i have just installed a little pov-ray render station on our home-server)

but the GUI for the windows version is still unbeaten.

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On Wed, 11 Jul 2001 01:46:56 +0200, Sebastian Holtermann wrote:

>For povray-rendering i like linux more than windows 
>(i have just installed a little pov-ray render station on our home-server)
>
>but the GUI for the windows version is still unbeaten.

I prefer Emacs with the syntax hilighting in tandem with my own util PovMenu.
You can d/l PovMenu from my web page at:

http://www.zeropps.uklinux.net/linstuff.html#POVMENU

There's a screenshot there too. 

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> >  Does XEmacs already support pc-selection-mode?
> >  That's one of the main reasons why I haven't been using it.
> >
> >  And besides, is there any considerable difference betweem the two
> >anyways?
> 
> Aside from fonts and being able to use bold/italics and the X
> clipboard, I don't think so.

X clipboard? C-SPC C-a M-w

...and then Hyper-TAB to a gnome-terminal and pressing the middle
mouse button gives me

  ole: ~$ X clipboard?

That is with FSF Emacs 20.7. Also Emacs is actually capable of using
some sort of italics, though it surely doesn't look nice.

I can't wait to get my hands on Emacs 21.

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