ABX wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 11:26:06 +0200, Fabien HENON <fab### [at] caramailcom>
> wrote:
> 
>>I forgot one thing :
>>
>>Pyvon now supports multilanguage.
>>I am looking for good-will to translate the file 'menu_english.py' or 
>>'menu_francais.py' into german, italian, spanish,... My german is not up 
>>to it anymore.
> 
> 
> I did that for Polish but:
> 1. I have no Python do test it
> 2. I'm not sure I can use language specific characters
> 3. no idea what 'CPU PAL' means
> 4. have added Trans_POLISH entry
> so what now ?
> 
> ABX

1. You can get the latest Python version at www.python.org to test it ( 
get version 2.2 at least)
2. I did use language specific characters for French, but I might remove 
them in case of problem.
3. CPU PAL is the contrary of CPU HOG ( when the application takes all 
the CPU resources it can get). I know 'CPU PAL' is not a good 
translation, but if the english native speaker could help me on that.....


Now, send me your copy, I will add the polish language entry in Pyvon 
and include menu_polish in the next release (By the way how do you write 
polish in polish ?)


Thanks, Fabien

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ABX wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Aug 2002 20:05:57 +0200, Fabien HENON <fab### [at] caramailcom>
> wrote:
> 
>>Thanks to all those who sent me email about suggestions, debugging,....
> 
> 
> I have one suggestion, convert file from http://www.abx.art.pl/pov/bonus
> and add it to this.
> 
I'll try that in Windows and see if I can import it to Linux

> 
>>I was about to give it a higher release number, but there might be bugs
>>lurking in the code lines.....
> 
> 

> Currently there is strange last modification listed at
> http://pyvon.sourceforge.net/readme.txt placed in the future.
> 
You mean there is a mistake ? Where ?

Fabien


> ABX

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On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 16:00:31 +0200, Fabien HENON <fab### [at] caramailcom>
wrote:
> > Currently there is strange last modification listed at
> > http://pyvon.sourceforge.net/readme.txt placed in the future.
> 
> You mean there is a mistake ? Where ?

Have you release c86 in september ?

ABX

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ABX wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 16:00:31 +0200, Fabien HENON <fab### [at] caramailcom>
> wrote:
> 
>>>Currently there is strange last modification listed at
>>>http://pyvon.sourceforge.net/readme.txt placed in the future.
>>
>>You mean there is a mistake ? Where ?
> 
> 
> Have you release c86 in september ?
> 
> ABX

Hum... No. You are right. In fact there are two mistakes. I'll them in 5 
minutes

I would have taken a whole month holiday

Fabien

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On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:57:30 +0200, Fabien HENON <fab### [at] caramailcom>
wrote:
> > 1. I have no Python do test it
> 1. You can get the latest Python version at www.python.org to test it ( 
> get version 2.2 at least)

I will check if it can be installed and not be to have for my desktop

> > 2. I'm not sure I can use language specific characters
> 2. I did use language specific characters for French, but I might remove 
> them in case of problem.

The problem is that windowses and unixes can use different coding for polish
characters. I will test it on windows and ask one of my friends for unix test

> > 3. no idea what 'CPU PAL' means
> 3. CPU PAL is the contrary of CPU HOG ( when the application takes all 
> the CPU resources it can get). I know 'CPU PAL' is not a good 
> translation, but if the english native speaker could help me on that.....

Oh, I see. Now I know how to translate.

> > 4. have added Trans_POLISH entry
> > so what now ?
>
> Now, send me your copy, I will add the polish language entry in Pyvon 
> and include menu_polish in the next release.

I will send it to on monday since currently I have to break work becouse of
some tasks in company...

> (By the way how do you write 
> polish in polish ?)

If you mean polish as polish as part of finish then it is not important but if
you mean polish like finnish then it is POLSKI

ABX

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ABX wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:57:30 +0200, Fabien HENON <fab### [at] caramailcom>
> wrote:
> 
>>>1. I have no Python do test it
>>
>>1. You can get the latest Python version at www.python.org to test it ( 
>>get version 2.2 at least)
> 
> 
> I will check if it can be installed and not be to have for my desktop
You are using Windows ?
I have not tested it on the MS platform, but you might get font problem. 
If so, tell me, I'll send you a patch that works in Windows.
Linux and Windows do not deal with fonts exactly the same way.

> 
> 
>>>2. I'm not sure I can use language specific characters
>>
>>2. I did use language specific characters for French, but I might remove 
>>them in case of problem.
> 
> 
> The problem is that windowses and unixes can use different coding for polish
> characters. I will test it on windows and ask one of my friends for unix test
> 
> 
>>>3. no idea what 'CPU PAL' means
>>
>>3. CPU PAL is the contrary of CPU HOG ( when the application takes all 
>>the CPU resources it can get). I know 'CPU PAL' is not a good 
>>translation, but if the english native speaker could help me on that.....
> 
> 
> Oh, I see. Now I know how to translate.
Well, even in French I am not completely satisfied with my translation.

> 
> 
>>>4. have added Trans_POLISH entry
>>>so what now ?
>>
>>Now, send me your copy, I will add the polish language entry in Pyvon 
>>and include menu_polish in the next release.
> 
> 
> I will send it to on monday since currently I have to break work becouse of
> some tasks in company...
> 
> 
>>(By the way how do you write 
>>polish in polish ?)
> 
> 
> If you mean polish as polish as part of finish then it is not important but if
> you mean polish like finnish then it is POLSKI
Funny, I forgot about the two meanings of polish (True, I do not need 
much wax for Pyvon)

Fabien

> 
> ABX

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Fabien HENON <fab### [at] caramailcom> wrote:
> The point is that you always have to go to and back between the terminal 
> and your editor.

  With emacs it's easy to run povray with a keyboard shortcut (eg. alt-g
or whatever).

> It sometimes saves you from typing a '120-letter-long command line in a 
> terminal with the inherent mistakes you might do.

  It's not like you have to type the whole command every time. Shells usually
have a command history.
  Besides, what type of parameters you give to povray which take 120 characters
and which you can't put in your .povrayrc?
  When I have to write the rendering command for the first time (ie. it's
still not in the command history), it's usually something like
povray fil<tab> +sp8
  That's about 16 characters.

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[1rgb 9]}scale<D,D*3D>*1e3}rotate y*A*8}#end M(-3<1.206434.28623>70,7)M(
-1<.7438.1795>1,20)M(1<.77595.13699>30,20)M(3<.75923.07145>80,99)// - Warp -

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Warp wrote:
> Fabien HENON <fab### [at] caramailcom> wrote:
> 
>>The point is that you always have to go to and back between the terminal 
>>and your editor.
> 
> 
>   With emacs it's easy to run povray with a keyboard shortcut (eg. alt-g
> or whatever).
> 
Same for Pyvon Ctrl+g

> 
>>It sometimes saves you from typing a '120-letter-long command line in a 
>>terminal with the inherent mistakes you might do.
> 
> 
>   It's not like you have to type the whole command every time. Shells usually
> have a command history.
>   Besides, what type of parameters you give to povray which take 120 characters
> and which you can't put in your .povrayrc?
>   When I have to write the rendering command for the first time (ie. it's
> still not in the command history), it's usually something like
> povray fil<tab> +sp8
>   That's about 16 characters.
> 
I have hardly exaggerated. What a hassle when you have to type a command 
that does not correspond to your .povrayrc : You have to scroll your 
cursor all the way every time you want to change a single parameter:

This is the latest command line I used for an animation. The file is 
taken from Gilles Tran Maketree macro which I modified for the camera to 
revolve around a tree.

povray +iextree3.pov +kff40 -p +kc +a0.1 +am2 +w640 +h480 
+o/mnt/win_e/temp/arbre.png +fn


I have about 80 characters in the command line above.


Here is a copy of my .povrayrc :


+w320 +h240 -f +dgt +p
-l/mnt/win_c/winnt/fonts
-l/home/fabien/povray-3.5/include





Fabien

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> 
> Hum... No. You are right. In fact there are two mistakes. I'll them in 5 
> minutes
> 
[...]

Another thing.
Looks like pyvon can't start up povray properly, when name of .pov file
contains spaces (ex. "my little test.pov" :)

> Fabien


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The problem is that I do not know how to render a scene even with a 
command line in a terminal.

I tried

for a file name 'scene to render.pov'

povray +iscene\ to\ render.pov +w320 +h240 +dgt


it does not work.

What is the proper command line for file with spaces ?




Fabien HENON





> 
>>Hum... No. You are right. In fact there are two mistakes. I'll them in 5 
>>minutes
>>
> 
> [...]
> 
> Another thing.
> Looks like pyvon can't start up povray properly, when name of .pov file
> contains spaces (ex. "my little test.pov" :)
> 
> 
>>Fabien
> 
> 

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