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On Tue, 07 Aug 2012 21:42:41 +0100, Stephen wrote:
> On 07/08/2012 9:37 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> That was kinda my second thought, though I didn't know that Sheriff Joe
>> was that well known outside the US (other than my cousin who lived in
>> Iceland and couldn't be extradited because Sheriff Joe's "chain gangs"
>> were deemed to violate the Geneva Convention - long story).
>
> He has been reported on by the BBC for eons. Making chain gangs wear
> pink uniforms. Tosspot!
That's quite interesting, I didn't know the beeb had picked up on it for
such a long time.
Fortunately, he's on the wrong end of a lawsuit now, and hopefully he'll
be convicted.
Jim
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Am 07.08.2012 23:36, schrieb Jim Henderson:
> Fortunately, he's on the wrong end of a lawsuit now, and hopefully he'll
> be convicted.
Sounds like that would be the /right/ end of a lawsuit then...
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Le 2012-08-07 13:10, Jim Henderson a écrit :
> On Tue, 07 Aug 2012 07:58:23 -0400, Francois Labreque wrote:
>
>> Le 2012-08-04 17:59, Jim Henderson a écrit :
>>> "Natural Born [American] Citizen" is used to denote someone who
>>> received their citizenship by being born here.
>>
>> Unless, of course, their father was a Kenyan student.
>
> Um, no, Obama was actually born in Hawaii.
>
> (Or are you making a joke?)
>
> Jim
>
Yes, it was a weak attempt at humor.
I loves me a good conspiracy theory, so I've been following the birther
movement from the get go. From the first lawsuits by Philip Berg,
Hillary clinton's "as far as I know" attempt at a smear campaign during
her primary run against Obama, the Orly Taitz fiascos, the 6.023x10E23
articles in World Net Daily. The Donald's attempting to join in on the
bandwagon and getting egg in the face, The Arizona Secretary of State
(who in a totally unrelated matter is Romney's campaign manager in AZ)
who asked the Hawaii government to produce the original birth
certificate, the Hawaii government asking for proff that he was really
the Arizona Secretary of State, Sheriff Joe's staff paid vacation^W^W
fact-finding mission to Hawaii, etc...
This is all more hilarious than the moon-landing oaxers or the 9/11
truthers.
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On Tue, 07 Aug 2012 20:42:30 -0400, Francois Labreque wrote:
> Yes, it was a weak attempt at humor.
:)
> I loves me a good conspiracy theory, so I've been following the birther
> movement from the get go.
But I thought you said you loved a *good* conspiracy theory. Why pick
such a bad one? ;)
After all, those who still hold it now are the same ones who think
Obama's a radical Muslim who attends a radical Christian church where the
pastor regularly says "God Damn America!" while eating dogmeat. Oh, and
he was educated in a Madrassa, wears a turban, and bows to other heads of
state because he thinks he (and the US) inferior.
Then again, that whole thing put together is a pretty good conspiracy
theory. ;)
> This is all more hilarious than the moon-landing oaxers or the 9/11
> truthers.
I find both of these to be far more interesting.
Jim
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On Wed, 08 Aug 2012 02:31:30 +0200, clipka wrote:
> Am 07.08.2012 23:36, schrieb Jim Henderson:
>
>> Fortunately, he's on the wrong end of a lawsuit now, and hopefully
>> he'll be convicted.
>
> Sounds like that would be the /right/ end of a lawsuit then...
Indeed, though from his perspective, I'm sure he doesn't see it that way.
It would be nice, though, if he were convicted of something that would
actually *put* him on one of his chain gangs.
Just like it would perhaps be appropriate if our former VP had to go
through the torture he approved. That whole "do unto others" golden rule
comes to mind, seems he didn't really take that to heart. (Oh, right, he
doesn't have one ;) )
But in some instances, there really is no justice.
Jim
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Am 08.08.2012 19:25, schrieb Jim Henderson:
>> This is all more hilarious than the moon-landing oaxers or the 9/11
>> truthers.
>
> I find both of these to be far more interesting.
Yeah; you just gotta love the moon hoaxers for how they apply "common
sense" - i.e. a bunch of intuitive knowledge honed by and for life on
planet earth - to physics on some other celestial body. And how they
keep collecting minute details in Apollo images and camera footage as
"proof" to their claims, which - when examined scientifically instead of
with earth-bound intuition - screams "low gravity and no atmosphere" all
over the place. (But in the absence of an atmosphere, of course those
screams remain unheard.)
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On 8/7/2012 5:42 PM, Francois Labreque wrote:
> Le 2012-08-07 13:10, Jim Henderson a écrit :
>> On Tue, 07 Aug 2012 07:58:23 -0400, Francois Labreque wrote:
>>
>>> Le 2012-08-04 17:59, Jim Henderson a écrit :
>>>> "Natural Born [American] Citizen" is used to denote someone who
>>>> received their citizenship by being born here.
>>>
>>> Unless, of course, their father was a Kenyan student.
>>
>> Um, no, Obama was actually born in Hawaii.
>>
>> (Or are you making a joke?)
>>
>> Jim
>>
>
> Yes, it was a weak attempt at humor.
>
> I loves me a good conspiracy theory, so I've been following the birther
> movement from the get go. From the first lawsuits by Philip Berg,
> Hillary clinton's "as far as I know" attempt at a smear campaign during
> her primary run against Obama, the Orly Taitz fiascos, the 6.023x10E23
> articles in World Net Daily. The Donald's attempting to join in on the
> bandwagon and getting egg in the face, The Arizona Secretary of State
> (who in a totally unrelated matter is Romney's campaign manager in AZ)
> who asked the Hawaii government to produce the original birth
> certificate, the Hawaii government asking for proff that he was really
> the Arizona Secretary of State, Sheriff Joe's staff paid vacation^W^W
> fact-finding mission to Hawaii, etc...
>
> This is all more hilarious than the moon-landing oaxers or the 9/11
> truthers.
You got one thing wrong in there. The **real** name is "World Nut Daily".
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On 8/8/2012 12:31 PM, clipka wrote:
> Am 08.08.2012 19:25, schrieb Jim Henderson:
>
>>> This is all more hilarious than the moon-landing oaxers or the 9/11
>>> truthers.
>>
>> I find both of these to be far more interesting.
>
> Yeah; you just gotta love the moon hoaxers for how they apply "common
> sense" - i.e. a bunch of intuitive knowledge honed by and for life on
> planet earth - to physics on some other celestial body. And how they
> keep collecting minute details in Apollo images and camera footage as
> "proof" to their claims, which - when examined scientifically instead of
> with earth-bound intuition - screams "low gravity and no atmosphere" all
> over the place. (But in the absence of an atmosphere, of course those
> screams remain unheard.)
>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6MOnehCOUw
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On 07/08/2012 10:36 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> That's quite interesting, I didn't know the beeb had picked up on it for
> such a long time.
>
It must have been about 10 or 11 years ago that I heard a report about it.
> Fortunately, he's on the wrong end of a lawsuit now, and hopefully he'll
> be convicted.
Shucks! Oh! What a shame. :-D
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Regards
Stephen
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 21:48:18 +0100, Stephen wrote:
> On 07/08/2012 10:36 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> That's quite interesting, I didn't know the beeb had picked up on it
>> for such a long time.
>>
>>
> It must have been about 10 or 11 years ago that I heard a report about
> it.
I guess that tracks. My cousin's experience with the Maracopa county
justice system was in 1999, and that incident is likely what brought
Arpaio the international attention.
I was also mistaken - obviously the Geneva Convention wouldn't apply -
that's to do with wartime activities and POWs. What applied was:
"[P]rovisions of Article 68 of the Icelandic Constitution and Article 3
of the Council of Europe Agreement for the Protection of Human Rights and
Freedom, cf. also Article 7 of the international agreement on civil and
political rights, which state that no one shall be subject to inhumane or
humiliating treatment."
An agreement had to be reached for the Icelandic government to consider
extradition at all - even in the circumstance that he wanted to turn
himself in (which was the case).
>> Fortunately, he's on the wrong end of a lawsuit now, and hopefully
>> he'll be convicted.
>
> Shucks! Oh! What a shame. :-D
Unfortunately, the "penalty" is that the office will be monitored to
ensure compliance with the law regarding racial profiling. It doesn't
actually have anything to do with the conditions in his prisons or
treatment of prisoners. The best we can hope for in this instance is
that he retires or is voted out of office.
Jim
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