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On 5-6-2017 9:26, Stephen wrote:
> On 6/5/2017 7:49 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> On 4-6-2017 15:08, Stephen wrote:
>>> On 6/4/2017 1:36 PM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
>>>> The fan on my computer just became louder, and I thought I detected an
>>>> unpleasant smell during my last render.
>>>>
>>>> Looks like I won't be doing any renders until I get the fan replaced.
>>>
>>> Gulp! Good that you caught it early.
>>>
>>
>> Maybe cleaning away the accumulated dust on the fan will be enough. I
>> have experienced loud noises before and that was the solution (with
>> compressed air... carefully).
>>
>
> I've never thought that using compressed air was a good idea. Unless you
> can take the fan out of the machine it just blows it elsewhere. And they
> are expensive. I use a clean paintbrush and a vacuum cleaner with an
> extension.
There is that, however it did the trick for me :-) I got rid of the dust
somehow...
>
> About a month ago I noticed a fan on my PC that I had not cleaned for 3
> years. It took me over an hour to get access to it and I had to remove
> the fan controller. Now one of fans is reporting a speed of zero. The
> temperature is okay but I will need to strip the m/c down again to check
> it. The fan controller is not very good. (AeroCool Touch-2000)
>
--
Thomas
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On 2017-06-05 02:49 AM (-4), Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Maybe cleaning away the accumulated dust on the fan will be enough. I
> have experienced loud noises before and that was the solution (with
> compressed air... carefully).
First thing I tried. Didn't work.
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On 6/5/2017 12:43 PM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
> On 2017-06-05 02:49 AM (-4), Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> Maybe cleaning away the accumulated dust on the fan will be enough. I
>> have experienced loud noises before and that was the solution (with
>> compressed air... carefully).
>
> First thing I tried. Didn't work.
>
If it is making a squealing noise. This might be a short term fix.
In the olden days. If you removed the sticky back cover in the centre of
the fan. There was a small hole where you can put a drop of machine oil
on the bearings.
--
Regards
Stephen
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On 2017-06-05 08:22 AM (-4), Stephen wrote:
> If it is making a squealing noise. This might be a short term fix.
> In the olden days. If you removed the sticky back cover in the centre of
> the fan. There was a small hole where you can put a drop of machine oil
> on the bearings.
It's vibrating. I'm afraid it's going to shake something loose. I
think it already has.
A replacement can be had for US$12 on Amazon, and I think would be
totally worth it. The hardest part would be a software guy like me
fiddling with screwdrivers. I will most likely end up buying from an
off-island supplier who posted a video on how to do the replacement, for
considerably more than $12. I'd consider it a gratuity for the video.
I'm looking to buy a replacement power cord for them as well. My
battery won't charge, which is serious, because my backwards third world
country has power outages almost every day. I've exhausted almost all
local options; the last chance is paying OfficeMax through the nose for
a Genuine Dell power cord, and the remote supplier has 'em cheaper.
(But then there is shipping.)
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On 6/5/2017 2:17 PM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
> On 2017-06-05 08:22 AM (-4), Stephen wrote:
>> If it is making a squealing noise. This might be a short term fix.
>> In the olden days. If you removed the sticky back cover in the centre of
>> the fan. There was a small hole where you can put a drop of machine oil
>> on the bearings.
>
> It's vibrating. I'm afraid it's going to shake something loose. I
> think it already has.
>
My first guess would be a broken fan blade throwing it off balance. Or
it could be the bearings.
> A replacement can be had for US$12 on Amazon, and I think would be
> totally worth it.
Yes, totally, totally. :)
> The hardest part would be a software guy like me
> fiddling with screwdrivers. I will most likely end up buying from an
> off-island supplier who posted a video on how to do the replacement, for
> considerably more than $12. I'd consider it a gratuity for the video.
>
You might consider buying the fan from Amazon and using the video for
instructions. If the Amazon fan is a genuine replacement. That would be
best. If you are not confident doing it yourself. It might be an idea to
ask one of the computer repair shops to do it for the cost of the labour
if you supply the parts.
You mention that your battery not charging, is it a laptop? That might
make a difference to how easy it is to do.
The next bit of advice will have people screaming. I always use a 1/8"
terminal screwdriver instead of a Phillips or crosshead screwdriver.
Because if Dell use propriety screws you will strip/round the head if
you don't have the right type. (Speaking from long experience on this.)
it goes against the grain but it works for me. And buy the cheapest not
the fancy type. They should be about a dollar or 10 bucks for ten.
Something like this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Neill-Tools-Terminal-Screwdriver-100mm-Slotted-P18-4-/152480558413
A small shifting spanner (adjustable wrench) on the end acts as a torque
bar to start them off. (It often makes a cracking sound as if the
plastic has broken.)
BTW keep the screwdriver vertical so it does not slip. [Important]
I hope I am not trying to teach you to suck eggs. :)
> I'm looking to buy a replacement power cord for them as well. My
> battery won't charge, which is serious, because my backwards third world
> country has power outages almost every day. I've exhausted almost all
> local options; the last chance is paying OfficeMax through the nose for
> a Genuine Dell power cord, and the remote supplier has 'em cheaper. (But
> then there is shipping.)
>
Are you sure it is not the battery? Every one of my laptop batteries has
died the death because I keep my laptop plugged in. They don't like it.
--
Regards
Stephen
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On Mon, 05 Jun 2017 08:26:51 +0100, Stephen wrote:
> I've never thought that using compressed air was a good idea. Unless you
> can take the fan out of the machine it just blows it elsewhere. And they
> are expensive. I use a clean paintbrush and a vacuum cleaner with an
> extension.
I use compressed air and a vacuum cleaner - hold the hose near where
you're spraying the air, and the dust that's kicked loose gets sucked
into the vacuum.
Jim
--
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
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On 6/5/2017 4:39 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Jun 2017 08:26:51 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>
>> I've never thought that using compressed air was a good idea. Unless you
>> can take the fan out of the machine it just blows it elsewhere. And they
>> are expensive. I use a clean paintbrush and a vacuum cleaner with an
>> extension.
>
> I use compressed air
You must be rich. ;)
When I've used compressed air it was from a supply line at about 2 Bar.
Great for drying PCBs after washing them.
> and a vacuum cleaner - hold the hose near where
> you're spraying the air, and the dust that's kicked loose gets sucked
> into the vacuum.
>
--
Regards
Stephen
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On Mon, 05 Jun 2017 17:37:38 +0100, Stephen wrote:
> On 6/5/2017 4:39 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Mon, 05 Jun 2017 08:26:51 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> I've never thought that using compressed air was a good idea. Unless
>>> you can take the fan out of the machine it just blows it elsewhere.
>>> And they are expensive. I use a clean paintbrush and a vacuum cleaner
>>> with an extension.
>>
>> I use compressed air
>
> You must be rich. ;)
> When I've used compressed air it was from a supply line at about 2 Bar.
> Great for drying PCBs after washing them.
CostCo, pack of 12 cans for about $40 (just over $3/can). And I don't
clean my systems often. ;) I think I've had the current pack (which was
a 6-pack when I got it) for probably 4 years now.
But I also have a powered blower for cleaning computer equipment - it's
kinda noisy, but gets the job done.
Jim
--
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw
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On 2017-06-05 10:33 AM (-4), Stephen wrote:
> On 6/5/2017 2:17 PM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
>> The hardest part would be a software guy like me
>> fiddling with screwdrivers. I will most likely end up buying from an
>> off-island supplier who posted a video on how to do the replacement, for
>> considerably more than $12. I'd consider it a gratuity for the video.
>
> You might consider buying the fan from Amazon and using the video for
> instructions.
That wouldn't be nice. Besides, it's too late; I ordered one as soon as
they opened for business Monday morning. (I would have ordered earlier
on-line, but I had questions. Good thing too, because they had just
gotten an order from Guam, and were still in the process of informing
their computer system that the USA has territories.) I told them the
video is the reason that I'm paying more for their fan.
But even with shipping, they saved me money on the Genuine Dell power cord.
> If the Amazon fan is a genuine replacement. That would be
> best.
The supplier said that with counterfeit parts floating around, I could
never be sure. But of course she would say that.
> If you are not confident doing it yourself. It might be an idea to
> ask one of the computer repair shops to do it for the cost of the labour
> if you supply the parts.
I'd do that if they didn't have a 3 week waiting list.
>> I'm looking to buy a replacement power cord for them as well. My
>> battery won't charge, which is serious, because my backwards third world
>> country has power outages almost every day. I've exhausted almost all
>> local options; the last chance is paying OfficeMax through the nose for
>> a Genuine Dell power cord, and the remote supplier has 'em cheaper. (But
>> then there is shipping.)
>
> Are you sure it is not the battery? Every one of my laptop batteries has
> died the death because I keep my laptop plugged in. They don't like it.
The battery's fine. It only stopped charging when the computer
complained that it could not recognize the power supply and *told* me it
may refuse to charge the battery.
I've heard that newer computers know when to back off charging the
battery. After 4 years, mine shows no sign of discharging abnormally.
(The battery in my last laptop crapped out after 5 years, and I could
see the deterioration over the last couple of years.)
Web searches all point to the power cord being the culprit for my symptoms.
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On 6/5/2017 8:42 PM, Cousin Ricky wrote:
> On 2017-06-05 10:33 AM (-4), Stephen wrote:
>> You might consider buying the fan from Amazon and using the video for
>> instructions.
>
> That wouldn't be nice.
Gosh! An American with a sense of honour. You are a dying breed. ;)
(Sorry, could not resist. :) )
> Besides, it's too late; I ordered one as soon as
> they opened for business Monday morning. (I would have ordered earlier
> on-line, but I had questions. Good thing too, because they had just
> gotten an order from Guam, and were still in the process of informing
> their computer system that the USA has territories.)
I suppose you must be used to that sort of thing.
> I told them the
> video is the reason that I'm paying more for their fan.
>
Good feedback.
> But even with shipping, they saved me money on the Genuine Dell power cord.
>
>> If the Amazon fan is a genuine replacement. That would be
>> best.
>
> The supplier said that with counterfeit parts floating around, I could
> never be sure. But of course she would say that.
>
Naturally, but it is true.
>> If you are not confident doing it yourself. It might be an idea to
>> ask one of the computer repair shops to do it for the cost of the labour
>> if you supply the parts.
>
> I'd do that if they didn't have a 3 week waiting list.
>
Did not think of that. :(
>>> I'm looking to buy a replacement power cord for them as well. My
>>> battery won't charge, which is serious, because my backwards third world
>>> country has power outages almost every day. I've exhausted almost all
>>> local options; the last chance is paying OfficeMax through the nose for
>>> a Genuine Dell power cord, and the remote supplier has 'em cheaper. (But
>>> then there is shipping.)
>>
>> Are you sure it is not the battery? Every one of my laptop batteries has
>> died the death because I keep my laptop plugged in. They don't like it.
>
> The battery's fine. It only stopped charging when the computer
> complained that it could not recognize the power supply and *told* me it
> may refuse to charge the battery.
>
Grrr! That really annoys me. Sometimes it seems more cost effective to
buy a new printer than to buy a genuine replacement ink cartridge. But
being the toerag I am. I will go out of my way to cheat them and save
the planet. That behaviour is immoral imo.
> I've heard that newer computers know when to back off charging the
> battery. After 4 years, mine shows no sign of discharging abnormally.
> (The battery in my last laptop crapped out after 5 years, and I could
> see the deterioration over the last couple of years.)
>
Good, I am pleased to hear that. :D
> Web searches all point to the power cord being the culprit for my symptoms.
>
A plug, two wires and a connector, would you believe it? Worse than Apple.
But I am glad you have been sorted out.
--
Regards
Stephen
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