>> Getting a few asians or africans on board would make things even more
>> interesting (or from latin america, but I am not sure if the last one
>> was a success). Definitely lacking a female perspective also.
>
> And I also wonder how extremely people from Islamic countries are
> here... I keep track of p.b.i. since 2000, and I remember only 2 (two!)
> active posters (out of currently 1,360!) whose names clearly indicate an
> Islamic background! Which I think is somewhat strange, as the
> traditional abstract, geometrical and mathematical Islamic approach to
> art goes perfectly well with POV-Ray...

To be honest, I couldn't care less what background the /name/ of a 
poster indicates, whether Islamic or otherwise.

If the /image/ indicates some particular background, that's an entirely 
different story, as it might be relevant to understand the image.

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> Hi(gh)!
>
> On 01.10.2014 21:28, clipka wrote:
>
>> ... whatever "king-for-a-day Progressivism" or "the king-for-a-day
>> premise" is.
>
> It would be better to have this explained by Shay himself, rather than
> to look it up using Google (it's tempting, but the chance is high to end
> up with a strangely different definition, not to mention lunatic fringe
> rantings on the issue)...

I did indeed google it, but didn't find anything I could remotely make 
sense of in the context of Shay's posting.

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On 14-10-2014 5:02, clipka wrote:

>
>>> Getting a few asians or africans on board would make things even more
>>> interesting (or from latin america, but I am not sure if the last one
>>> was a success). Definitely lacking a female perspective also.
>>
>> And I also wonder how extremely people from Islamic countries are
>> here... I keep track of p.b.i. since 2000, and I remember only 2 (two!)
>> active posters (out of currently 1,360!) whose names clearly indicate an
>> Islamic background! Which I think is somewhat strange, as the
>> traditional abstract, geometrical and mathematical Islamic approach to
>> art goes perfectly well with POV-Ray...
>
> To be honest, I couldn't care less what background the /name/ of a
> poster indicates, whether Islamic or otherwise.
>
> If the /image/ indicates some particular background, that's an entirely
> different story, as it might be relevant to understand the image.
>

That was the point. By not being cultural and gender diverse enough we 
are missing valuable aesthetic input.

-- 
Everytime the IT department forbids something that a researcher deems
necessary for her work there will be another hole in the firewall.

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On 14-10-2014 10:42, andrel wrote:
> That was the point. By not being cultural and gender diverse enough we
> are missing valuable aesthetic input.
>

Absolutely. However, how to increase diversity? We cannot establish 
quota ;-) People have to come by themselves...

Thomas

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Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:

> Absolutely. However, how to increase diversity?
.....   People have to come by themselves...
>
> Thomas

"Invite" them.

Post images and/or links on other boards - "raytraced with POV-Ray
(www.povray.org)".

Art - painting, wordles, abstract shapes and blobs and textures, it's endless...

Architecture,

Home furnishings - especially with the popularity of home improvement shows -
(Love it or List it, Property Brothers, Flip Flop, House Hunters....) POV-Ray
has wood, granite, marble, tiling, landscaping plants, animation, etc.

Anatomy and Biology

Math - this is a natural, considering the nature of computer graphics, SDL,
Friederich Lohmueller's site, Mike Williams' Isosurfaces, many others, and the
fact that not one but TWO 2-hour movies (Chaos and Dimensions) exist

Computers graphics

Programming - write a solution - but, "gosh, I only know how to do that in
SDL..."  "I have a file to do that, but it's a .pov, .mcr, .inc ...."

Optics

Lasers

Finite Element Analysis

Civil Engineering - I've seen several people working on city-building macros

Science Fiction

Find some niche or "movement" or fad, and post interest-related images that
would be hard to create otherwise.   "Wow!  How'd you _DO_ that??!!"  "POV-Ray."

Astronomy

Meteorology

Geological surveying

Fluid dynamics

Mechanical engineering
     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE04CTpCIdQ
     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3QbgwgxSO0

Geography - http://earthview.sourceforge.net/    and lots of other globe-mapping
utilities...

Education

Web Design

Woodworking

Electronics - Eagle 3D, etc     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjoLYp_uLSs

Physics

Lighting

Photography

Entertainment

Origami

Chemistry

Fireworks display simulations

Ebay - Buy It Now!  For only $0.00  Click here to download...   :)

YouTube - "Here's how easy it is to do x, y, or z..."

Facebook

Email - put some sort of mention of POV-Ray in your signature file



And there are probably 500 things I haven't thought of.
(Sorry - only on my 1st cup of coffee...)

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On 2014-10-14 09:27, Bald Eagle wrote:
> Post images and/or links on other boards - "raytraced with POV-Ray
> (www.povray.org)".
>
> Math - this is a natural, considering the nature of computer graphics, SDL,
> Friederich Lohmueller's site, Mike Williams' Isosurfaces, many others, and the
> fact that not one but TWO 2-hour movies (Chaos and Dimensions) exist

This one is probably the most-relevant to POV-Ray; people simply wanting 
to 'get into 3D rendering' are far more likely to be drawn to one of the 
big names like 3DS or Maya.

I'm not aware of (though I don't get out much) an equivalent of 
isosurface elsewhere in the world of CGI.

For programming, there are also far more popular languages which have 
direct applicability to real-world skill of being able to claim you are 
fluent in.

 From what I've read[citation needed], POV-Ray is somewhat popular for 
data visualisation for astronomy and such.  Since this specific thread 
is sociopolitical, perhaps generating some nice graphs from crunched 
numbers of related data would be a draw for sociologists?

--
Tim Cook
http://empyrean.sjcook.com

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Hi(gh)!

On 14.10.2014 16:27, Bald Eagle wrote:

> Astronomy
>
> Meteorology
>
> Geological surveying

...not to forget cartography and geography in general!

Did you heard of "Associativity-O-Blast" (German: Assoziations-Blaster), 
www.a-blast.org ? An experimental hypertext project growing continuously 
since 1999. The underlying idea is to write texts ("associations") about 
keywords; each keyword in the text about which other texts already have 
been posted, is linked automatically. But these links work randomly - 
you cannot link to a certain association on a given keyword. You also 
can enter a keyword on the start page of the Assoziations-Blaster, which 
then will display an information page containing the current number of 
associations on the chosen keyword as well a random selection of 
positively evaluated associations.

Each participant in the Assoziations-Blaster (which is perfectly 
anonymous, no registration required!) is assigned some evaluation points 
from time to time, depending on his or her time spent on the 
Assoziations-Blaster and amount of published ("blasted") associations. 
On every association (except his or her own) the participant can place a 
positive or negative evualation, which cumulatively add up to a positive 
or negative total value. The lower this value is, the less frequently 
the association is displayed when clicked on or entered a keyword. 
Associations with a score below a certain threshold (default is -3) are 
not shown at all.

Frequent posters of associations are sooner or later (but still 
random-based to some degree) asked by the software to introduce 
("launch") a new keyword and write a first association - which then also 
is automatically linked in all existing associations.

So, some years ago, I started blasting simple POV-Ray scene scripts in 
the German section (there also is an English one) on keywords 
designating colours or geometrical forms, for example:

Yadgar, Ambassador of POVghanistan schrieb am 4.11. 2009 um 01:26:46 Uhr 


Quadrat [meaning "square" in German]

box { -1, 1 texture { pigment { color rgb 1 } finish { ambient 1 } } 
translate z*6}

There should be much more ambassadors of POV-Ray on the Blaster!

See you in Khyberspace!

Yadgar

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