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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: Why I should have more time (but actually don't)
Date: 26 Sep 2014 07:44:14
Message: <5425518e@news.povray.org>
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Stupidity alone? Might be, but 'the powers to be' are in everything
probably.
As you mention probably there is a gradual concentration of power back
to monarchy styles, and that monarchy is in turn being bought by money
people, or the 1%, I have learned that his is how the World is being
managed, Govs. are puppets and scape goats.
Everything is bribery probably, why politicians won't self themselves
when they have power and not money (capitalism wins over ethics and
politics), if they don't, and if they do they can always get a little
more, the reason why 'The Revolving Door': Corportocracy <--> Gov. flow
of people in USA but I'm pretty sure 'The Powers to Be' have managed to
do something similar in EU and other parts of the world.
That's why we need a economic system that it's not that selfish but the
contrary, a better way to share rationally what we have *worldwide* this
way each region will contribute with natural resources to the World and
Humanity will work for a Common Well-Being and will promote such
behavior as capitalism promotes the opposite.
That's why I made my suggestions to those websites, they have a good
alternative: Natural-Law Resource-Based Economy.
That was my argument, nothing more.
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Why I should have more time (but actually don't)
Date: 26 Sep 2014 07:58:50
Message: <542554fa$1@news.povray.org>
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On 26/09/2014 12:04, Saul Luizaga wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>> On 25-9-2014 10:47, Saul Luizaga wrote:
>>> I disagree that you know your economy better than I do, I'm not writing
>>> about your Country. And here is why: Who benefits from the
>>> "mismanagement and lack of foresight by politicians"? that's probably
>>> done on purpose to suck up money for some rich guy as it usually
>>> happens, you haven't at the seems investigated that far. My frame work
>>> is limited but probably I'm thinking ahead of you on this.
>>
>> I do know my country better than you. And you still fail to miss the
>> real point by being totally blinded by your misconception that you
>> understand the world. Go back and read what I wrote and come back if you
>> have anything interesting and new to add.
>>
> No, you re simply wrong, the Rothschild manage most of the economies in
> the EU, again, you think you know your Country, but keep that stubborn
> misconception.
Saul, this sounds awfully like a conspiracy theory.
You know that particularly ugly one about the Jews that Hitler* used.
I am sure that is not what you are saying but it could be read that way.
In principle there is some truth there. In my home country, Scotland. We
had a theatre company called The 7:84 company. The name refers to the
fact that 84% of Scotland was owned by 7% of the people.
* It wasn't just Hitler. It was going around in Britain hundreds of
years before that. But that is the point of reference that is normally used.
--
Regards
Stephen
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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: Why I should have more time (but actually don't)
Date: 26 Sep 2014 09:20:18
Message: <54256812@news.povray.org>
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Yeah, that Jews wanted to take over Germany and the World eventually.
The problem isn't the Rothschilds having lots of money, is the way they
use it.
I know it sounds that way, but there isn't only this documentary 'The
Mmoney Masters' in YouTube, 1 that Matt Damon, The Smarterst Guys in the
Room documentary in YT and the book, Pound Foolish book and many people
that has diagnosed the same behavior, many of which I have watched on
The Daily Show, and it's not only in USA but worldwide on each region
their own way, so the amount of evidence of social injustice converge at
that point, applying simply reasoning like the one in the graphic, the
experience is from authority, I know but those people looks like they're
not fakes, specially when they have a lot to lose and they're not going
to be liked by The Powers to Be, and instead expose their malpractices.
These are writers, people that research mostly silently for years and
make a book like a Thesis, so it is not something that you'll see in the
news probably, so if you don't get interested in social justice and
shows/people that will bring such
articles/interviews/documentaries/shows to share the info you'll
probably think, I'm a gullible conspiracy theorist.
Also knowing a bit of Darwinian behavior, the monetary system is such,
and because of it works well for the 1% some of those people support the
Evolution and the Darwinian way of doing business and justify capitalism.
Intelligent people will do a lot more damage to their own society than
less evolved beings following a Darwinian behavior, therefore the need
to change.
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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Why I should have more time (but actually don't)
Date: 26 Sep 2014 10:17:02
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On 26/09/14 14:19, Saul Luizaga wrote:
> The problem isn't the Rothschilds having lots of money, is the way they
> use it.
>
Actually, the Rothschilds have very little money. Only three of them
make it into Forbes Billionaires List; the highest placed one is
somewhere around #850 and the newest arrival is (I believe) a Facebook
investor. So you'll have to look elsewhere for someone to blame. Try
Bill Gates, he's #2
John
--
Protect the Earth
It was not given to you by your parents
You hold it in trust for your children
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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: Why I should have more time (but actually don't)
Date: 26 Sep 2014 10:28:18
Message: <54257802$1@news.povray.org>
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Yeah, because that magazine is not controlled by the 1%
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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Why I should have more time (but actually don't)
Date: 26 Sep 2014 12:04:50
Message: <54258ea2@news.povray.org>
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Am 26.09.2014 15:19, schrieb Saul Luizaga:
> These are writers, people that research mostly silently for years and
> make a book like a Thesis, so it is not something that you'll see in the
> news probably, so if you don't get interested in social justice and
> shows/people that will bring such
> articles/interviews/documentaries/shows to share the info you'll
> probably think, I'm a gullible conspiracy theorist.
Well, I guess I have to concede that you're right: There /is/ a
conspiracy going on.
It is a conspiracy of book authors to fool us into thinking that there
is a conspiracy going on in the world, for the sake of better selling
their books.
I'm not saying the books don't have a point. But I wouldn't believe 100%
of what's written in those books. 10% maybe.
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Why I should have more time (but actually don't)
Date: 26 Sep 2014 13:03:47
Message: <54259c73$1@news.povray.org>
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On 26/09/2014 14:19, Saul Luizaga wrote:
> Yeah, that Jews wanted to take over Germany and the World eventually.
> The problem isn't the Rothschilds having lots of money, is the way they
> use it.
Okay I agree with that.
But when conspiracy raised its ugly head. I make my excuses and leave.
(News of the World RIP)
I must say that I have not had so much fun, with my clothes on. For Aeons.
--
Regards
Stephen
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Why I should have more time (but actually don't)
Date: 26 Sep 2014 13:05:12
Message: <54259cc8$1@news.povray.org>
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On 26/09/2014 17:04, clipka wrote:
> I'm not saying the books don't have a point. But I wouldn't believe 100%
> of what's written in those books. 10% maybe.
But it is in black and white. It must be true.
--
Regards
Stephen
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Am 26.09.2014 19:05, schrieb Stephen:
> On 26/09/2014 17:04, clipka wrote:
>> I'm not saying the books don't have a point. But I wouldn't believe 100%
>> of what's written in those books. 10% maybe.
>
> But it is in black and white. It must be true.
Interesting thought, indeed: Why should we expect anything else from
books than a black-and-white view of the world. ;-)
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Why I should have more time (but actually don't)
Date: 26 Sep 2014 14:24:47
Message: <5425af6f@news.povray.org>
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On 26/09/2014 18:54, clipka wrote:
> Am 26.09.2014 19:05, schrieb Stephen:
>> On 26/09/2014 17:04, clipka wrote:
>>> I'm not saying the books don't have a point. But I wouldn't believe 100%
>>> of what's written in those books. 10% maybe.
>>
>> But it is in black and white. It must be true.
>
> Interesting thought, indeed: Why should we expect anything else from
> books than a black-and-white view of the world. ;-)
>
Because that is what "literature" is all about. Can't you just taste
that madeleine when you drink your tea.
(That should prove to my wife that I do listen. Proust! You couldn't
make him up.)
Seriously, It was an old fashioned retort to people who believe
everything in books. Probably long forgotten by everyone except Dr. John.
--
Regards
Stephen
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