On 25-9-2014 10:47, Saul Luizaga wrote:
> I disagree that you know your economy better than I do, I'm not writing
> about your Country. And here is why: Who benefits from the
> "mismanagement and lack of foresight by politicians"? that's probably
> done on purpose to suck up money for some rich guy as it usually
> happens, you haven't at the seems investigated that far. My frame work
> is limited but probably I'm thinking ahead of you on this.

I do know my country better than you. And you still fail to miss the 
real point by being totally blinded by your misconception that you 
understand the world. Go back and read what I wrote and come back if you 
have anything interesting and new to add.

-- 
Everytime the IT department forbids something that a researcher deems
necessary for her work there will be another hole in the firewall.

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Am 25.09.2014 10:47, schrieb Saul Luizaga:
> I disagree that you know your economy better than I do, I'm not writing
> about your Country. And here is why: Who benefits from the
> "mismanagement and lack of foresight by politicians"? that's probably
> done on purpose to suck up money for some rich guy as it usually
> happens,

Never presume malevolence when simple stupidity suffices.

I suppose at least 90% of the people with power don't /deliberately/ 
create a bad world - they just don't know the system they operate in 
well enough to control (rather than being controlled by) it.

Or, to put it in other words: The problem is not corrupt people in 
powerful positions - the problem is that the power the people in 
presumingly powerful positions have is dwindling day by day, as those 
positions are becoming more and more controlled by the system itself.


So, in some sense, modern democracy is worse than an absolutistic 
monarchy: In the latter, if things go wrong you know who's ultimately 
responsible for it.

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andrel wrote:
> On 25-9-2014 10:47, Saul Luizaga wrote:
>> I disagree that you know your economy better than I do, I'm not writing
>> about your Country. And here is why: Who benefits from the
>> "mismanagement and lack of foresight by politicians"? that's probably
>> done on purpose to suck up money for some rich guy as it usually
>> happens, you haven't at the seems investigated that far. My frame work
>> is limited but probably I'm thinking ahead of you on this.
>
> I do know my country better than you. And you still fail to miss the
> real point by being totally blinded by your misconception that you
> understand the world. Go back and read what I wrote and come back if you
> have anything interesting and new to add.
>
No, you re simply wrong, the Rothschild manage most of the economies in 
the EU, again, you think you know your Country, but keep that stubborn 
misconception.

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On 26-9-2014 13:04, Saul Luizaga wrote:
> No, you re simply wrong, the Rothschild manage most of the economies in
> the EU, again, you think you know your Country, but keep that stubborn
> misconception.

LOL

Thomas

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Not quite, there is an elite of money people that control the most of 
the economies of the World, and this is no theory this is unfortunately 
true, the depressions in USA, the World Wars, Vietnam, etc were and are 
all business to siphon money from the middle and lower classes. 
Therefore the need to change to a better type of economy and so my 
suggestions about it I made.

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Stupidity alone? Might be, but 'the powers to be' are in everything 
probably.

As you mention probably there is a gradual concentration of power back 
to monarchy styles, and that monarchy is in turn being bought by money 
people, or the 1%, I have learned that his is how the World is being 
managed, Govs. are puppets and scape goats.

Everything is bribery probably, why politicians won't self themselves 
when they have power and not money (capitalism wins over ethics and 
politics), if they don't, and if they do they can always get a little 
more, the reason why 'The Revolving Door': Corportocracy <--> Gov. flow 
of people in USA but I'm pretty sure 'The Powers to Be' have managed to 
do something similar in EU and other parts of the world.

That's why we need a economic system that it's not that selfish but the 
contrary, a better way to share rationally what we have *worldwide* this 
way each region will contribute with natural resources to the World and 
Humanity will work for a Common Well-Being and will promote such 
behavior as capitalism promotes the opposite.

That's why I made my suggestions to those websites, they have a good 
alternative: Natural-Law Resource-Based Economy.

That was my argument, nothing more.

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On 26/09/2014 12:04, Saul Luizaga wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>> On 25-9-2014 10:47, Saul Luizaga wrote:
>>> I disagree that you know your economy better than I do, I'm not writing
>>> about your Country. And here is why: Who benefits from the
>>> "mismanagement and lack of foresight by politicians"? that's probably
>>> done on purpose to suck up money for some rich guy as it usually
>>> happens, you haven't at the seems investigated that far. My frame work
>>> is limited but probably I'm thinking ahead of you on this.
>>
>> I do know my country better than you. And you still fail to miss the
>> real point by being totally blinded by your misconception that you
>> understand the world. Go back and read what I wrote and come back if you
>> have anything interesting and new to add.
>>
> No, you re simply wrong, the Rothschild manage most of the economies in
> the EU, again, you think you know your Country, but keep that stubborn
> misconception.


Saul, this sounds awfully like a conspiracy theory.
You know that particularly ugly one about the Jews that Hitler* used.
I am sure that is not what you are saying but it could be read that way.

In principle there is some truth there. In my home country, Scotland. We 
had a theatre company called The 7:84 company. The name refers to the 
fact that 84% of Scotland was owned by 7% of the people.

* It wasn't just Hitler. It was going around in Britain hundreds of 
years before that. But that is the point of reference that is normally used.

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     Stephen

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Yeah, that Jews wanted to take over Germany and the World eventually. 
The problem isn't the Rothschilds having lots of money, is the way they 
use it.

I know it sounds that way, but there isn't only this documentary 'The 
Mmoney Masters' in YouTube, 1 that Matt Damon, The Smarterst Guys in the 
Room documentary in YT and the book, Pound Foolish book and many people 
that has diagnosed the same behavior, many of which I have watched on 
The Daily Show, and it's not only in USA but worldwide on each region 
their own way, so the amount of evidence of social injustice converge at 
that point, applying simply reasoning like the one in the graphic, the 
experience is from authority, I know but those people looks like they're 
not fakes, specially when they have a lot to lose and they're not going 
to be liked by The Powers to Be, and instead expose their malpractices.

These are writers, people that research mostly silently for years and 
make a book like a Thesis, so it is not something that you'll see in the 
news probably, so if you don't get interested in social justice and 
shows/people that will bring such 
articles/interviews/documentaries/shows to share the info you'll 
probably think, I'm a gullible conspiracy theorist.

Also knowing a bit of Darwinian behavior, the monetary system is such, 
and because of it works well for the 1% some of those people support the 
Evolution and the Darwinian way of doing business and justify capitalism.

Intelligent people will do a lot more damage to their own society than 
less evolved beings following a Darwinian behavior, therefore the need 
to change.

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On 26/09/14 14:19, Saul Luizaga wrote:
> The problem isn't the Rothschilds having lots of money, is the way they
> use it.
> 

Actually, the Rothschilds have very little money. Only three of them
make it into Forbes Billionaires List; the highest placed one is
somewhere around #850 and the newest arrival is (I believe) a Facebook
investor. So you'll have to look elsewhere for someone to blame. Try
Bill Gates, he's #2

John
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It was not given to you by your parents
You hold it in trust for your children

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Yeah, because that magazine is not controlled by the 1%

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