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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Christian Fundamentalists in the USA - change of favorite enemy?
Date: 22 Sep 2014 22:37:08
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Am 22.09.2014 21:57, schrieb Stephen:

>>> Which reminds me. I read that Blair said that we might have to send
>>> troops against the Islamic State. Another Christian Fundamentalist.
>>
>> Ah, I'm not sure about that one. the IS seems to be a serious problem
>> indeed, and there /are/ countries that have their share in being
>> responsible for that.
>
> But if he believe that it is the right thing to do and God told him...

Sounds a bit far-fetched to me; any reliable source for this?


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Christian Fundamentalists in the USA - change of favorite enemy?
Date: 23 Sep 2014 04:18:23
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On 23/09/2014 03:37, clipka wrote:
> Am 22.09.2014 21:57, schrieb Stephen:
>
>>>> Which reminds me. I read that Blair said that we might have to send
>>>> troops against the Islamic State. Another Christian Fundamentalist.
>>>
>>> Ah, I'm not sure about that one. the IS seems to be a serious problem
>>> indeed, and there /are/ countries that have their share in being
>>> responsible for that.
>>
>> But if he believe that it is the right thing to do and God told him...
>
> Sounds a bit far-fetched to me; any reliable source for this?
>

I put the two clauses together and the one about God is an interpolation.

Google Tony Blare and God.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/5373525/Tony-Blair-believed-God-wanted-him-to-go-to-war-to-fight-evil-claims-his-mentor.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/4772142.stm

You may have to use a UK based proxy to see the last one.

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Christian Fundamentalists in the USA - change of favorite enemy?
Date: 23 Sep 2014 06:04:24
Message: <542145a8$1@news.povray.org>
On 22/09/2014 08:48, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>
> That is interesting. In Christian terms the devil being the entity most
> to be feared

In some parts of the Christian world it is God who is most to be feared. ;-)


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Christian Fundamentalists in the USA - change of favorite enemy?
Date: 23 Sep 2014 07:26:04
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Am 23.09.2014 10:18, schrieb Stephen:
> On 23/09/2014 03:37, clipka wrote:
>> Am 22.09.2014 21:57, schrieb Stephen:
>>
>>>>> Which reminds me. I read that Blair said that we might have to send
>>>>> troops against the Islamic State. Another Christian Fundamentalist.
>>>>
>>>> Ah, I'm not sure about that one. the IS seems to be a serious problem
>>>> indeed, and there /are/ countries that have their share in being
>>>> responsible for that.
>>>
>>> But if he believe that it is the right thing to do and God told him...
>>
>> Sounds a bit far-fetched to me; any reliable source for this?
>
> I put the two clauses together and the one about God is an interpolation.
>
> Google Tony Blare and God.
>
>
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/5373525/Tony-Blair-believed-God-wanted-him-to-go-to-war-to-fight-evil-claims-his-mentor.html

In light of this article, and if you had written "and God wants him 
to...", I'd be compelled to agree. Still no sign of "and God told him...".

Either way, whatever his faith, he's certainly right in one thing:

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Tony Blair complained in 2007 that he had been unable to talk about his 
faith while in office as he would have been perceived as "a nutter".
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And rightly so he would, as it seems.

God bless the British people for this difference to the US-Americans.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Christian Fundamentalists in the USA - change of favorite enemy?
Date: 23 Sep 2014 08:32:33
Message: <54216861$1@news.povray.org>
On 23/09/2014 12:26, clipka wrote:
>
> In light of this article, and if you had written "and God wants him
> to...", I'd be compelled to agree. Still no sign of "and God told him...".
>

Have you been promoted to 2nd dan Nitpicker? ;-)

Nobody but nobody admits to hearing voices in their head telling them to 
KILL. Unless it is at court.

> Either way, whatever his faith, he's certainly right in one thing:
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Tony Blair complained in 2007 that he had been unable to talk about his
> faith while in office as he would have been perceived as "a nutter".
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>

Too bloody true.

> And rightly so he would, as it seems.
>
> God bless the British people for this difference to the US-Americans.

And God bless you sir for your understanding.
And the old Queen Mum sends her blessing too.
Wherever she is. Gwad bless her. Lord Luv a duck

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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: Christian Fundamentalists in the USA - change of favorite enemy?
Date: 23 Sep 2014 08:43:57
Message: <54216b0d$1@news.povray.org>

> On 22/09/2014 13:39, Francois Labreque wrote:
>> In general, when you sell fear, it's good to have a visible represention
>> of what "THEY" look like, and the Soviets don't really fit the bill any
>> more.
>
> Do you want to look again? ;-)
>
American Conservatives are in love with Putin because he fits the bill 
of a tough president and he hates the gays, whereas Obama looks 
spineless and wants to use diplomacy instead of tanks*.

*Offer not valid in Syria.

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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: Christian Fundamentalists in the USA - change of favorite enemy?
Date: 23 Sep 2014 08:49:34
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> On 23/09/2014 12:26, clipka wrote:
>>
>> In light of this article, and if you had written "and God wants him
>> to...", I'd be compelled to agree. Still no sign of "and God told
>> him...".
>>
>
> Have you been promoted to 2nd dan Nitpicker? ;-)
>
> Nobody but nobody admits to hearing voices in their head telling them to
> KILL. Unless it is at court.

Unless you are a 12 year old french sheep herder and those voices tell 
you to go and fight the Kind of England.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Christian Fundamentalists in the USA - change of favorite enemy?
Date: 23 Sep 2014 09:06:26
Message: <54217052$1@news.povray.org>
On 23/09/2014 13:44, Francois Labreque wrote:
> American Conservatives are in love with Putin because he fits the bill
> of a tough president and he hates the gays, whereas Obama looks
> spineless and wants to use diplomacy instead of tanks*.
>

Right, put that way I see what you mean.

> *Offer not valid in Syria.

The exception that proves the rule. :-)

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Christian Fundamentalists in the USA - change of favorite enemy?
Date: 23 Sep 2014 09:08:27
Message: <542170cb$1@news.povray.org>
On 23/09/2014 13:49, Francois Labreque wrote:



>>
>> Nobody but nobody admits to hearing voices in their head telling them to
>> KILL. Unless it is at court.
>
> Unless you are a 12 year old french sheep herder and those voices tell
> you to go and fight the Kind of England.
>
>

I hope someone told her she could get her fingers burnt. :-)

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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Christian Fundamentalists in the USA - change of favorite enemy?
Date: 23 Sep 2014 09:57:11
Message: <54217C33.4080008@gmail.com>
On 22-9-2014 16:49, Stephen wrote:
> 2. What does a macho-man do when his back is to the wall?
Turn around and fight.

(First heard that one on HIGNFY years ago. I think it was Ian on Blair, 
but probably that joke is much older).

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