On 26/09/14 20:41, clipka wrote:
> 
> I suspect that the original term, like many of the fallacies' names, was
> pure latin: "argumentum ab ignorantia", literally meaning "argument from
> non-knowledge", and that it was poorly "anglicanized" later.
> 
> Alternatively, it may have been "anglicanized" at a time when the
> meaning of "ignorance" was closer to the original latin word, rather
> than the "not knowing shit" meaning it seems to be used for nowadays.
> 

I am inclined to agree with your analysis; it's a shame that fewer and
fewer people seem to have even a passing acquaintance with Latin these days.
BTW I'm not nit-picking, just correcting someone whose English is way
better than my German. The word you should have used was 'Anglicized'.
'Anglican' refers to the the Church of England.

> 
> That's indeed Occam's Razor at its best.
> 

That's why I love this newsgroup. We have an amazing collection of
logicians, mathematicians, computer scientists etc etc.

John
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Am 26.09.2014 22:05, schrieb Doctor John:
> On 26/09/14 20:41, clipka wrote:
>>
>> I suspect that the original term, like many of the fallacies' names, was
>> pure latin: "argumentum ab ignorantia", literally meaning "argument from
>> non-knowledge", and that it was poorly "anglicanized" later.
...
> BTW I'm not nit-picking, just correcting someone whose English is way
> better than my German. The word you should have used was 'Anglicized'.
> 'Anglican' refers to the the Church of England.

Yeah, I had a hunch something like that might be the case. Thanks.

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On 26/09/14 21:40, clipka wrote:
> Am 26.09.2014 22:05, schrieb Doctor John:
>> On 26/09/14 20:41, clipka wrote:
>>>
>>> I suspect that the original term, like many of the fallacies' names, was
>>> pure latin: "argumentum ab ignorantia", literally meaning "argument from
>>> non-knowledge", and that it was poorly "anglicanized" later.
> ....
>> BTW I'm not nit-picking, just correcting someone whose English is way
>> better than my German. The word you should have used was 'Anglicized'.
>> 'Anglican' refers to the the Church of England.
> 
> Yeah, I had a hunch something like that might be the case. Thanks.
> 

No problem. Have a good weekend

John
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On 26-9-2014 19:45, Warp wrote:
> Saul Luizaga <sau### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>> Hahaha, keep playing the fool
>
> Why exactly should I, or anybody else for that matter, take you seriously
> if this is the level of your discussion?
>
> I asked you a pretty clear question, and rather than have an actual
> discussion about it, you simply act like a really infantile smartass.
>
>  From your posts in the last few days you seem to want to give a very
> intellectual picture of yourself, using seemingly fancy terms and
> claiming to approach things in a logical and skeptical manner, yet
> when someone critiques what you say, this is the level of discussion
> to which you resort. That's not in any way intellectual or intelligent.
> It's just childish.
>

Thank you Warp. Exactly my opinion about this whole /discussion/.

Thomas

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Doctor John <j.g### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> On 26/09/14 20:41, clipka wrote:
> > 
> > I suspect that the original term, like many of the fallacies' names, was
> > pure latin: "argumentum ab ignorantia", literally meaning "argument from
> > non-knowledge", and that it was poorly "anglicanized" later.
> > 
> > Alternatively, it may have been "anglicanized" at a time when the
> > meaning of "ignorance" was closer to the original latin word, rather
> > than the "not knowing shit" meaning it seems to be used for nowadays.
> > 

> I am inclined to agree with your analysis; it's a shame that fewer and
> fewer people seem to have even a passing acquaintance with Latin these days.
> BTW I'm not nit-picking, just correcting someone whose English is way
> better than my German. The word you should have used was 'Anglicized'.
> 'Anglican' refers to the the Church of England.

I bet it was poorly anglicanized as well... ;)

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Hahaha :-)

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You do it your own way: you digress and rant and don't pay attention tot 
eh subject but the way the subject was enunciated, that's being passive 
aggressive, so yeah.

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Doctor John wrote:
> In the context in which it was originally written it was a warning that
> I had many more people on my side than the attacker had on his. It
> didn't imply physical violence.

I see.  Just in case: I wasn't implying that it did.

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I don't try in anyway to appear anything but rational, I don't know why 
people say I try to look intellectual and I use fancy words, I use the 
little English I know and words that are efficient for expressing 
ideas/meaning, if they seem intellectual well it's just expected since I 
used my intellect, what's wrong with that?

"I don't think you even understand what "argument from ignorance" means.

Did you pull a random fallacy name from your behind?" You call this 
mature? for a 10 year old, yes, this is your level of discussion and so 
my answers.

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I don't care if you're the Einstein of your profession, your logic is 
invalid, because you 2 statement in that post, the first was wrong and 
the second contradicted your first post which was ironically right, but 
contradicted yourself therefore invalidating the logic that connects the 
2 of them, so your way of thinking was more wrong that right, but you OH 
PROFESSIONAL in this, didn't even notice it, let alone bother to check 
for mistakes in your way of writing, and I'm the closed minded one? 
haha, I really don't care discussing with people like you, you have 
demonstrated on your post not to have much logic, so far the worst of 
all the posters to my posts.

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