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On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 05:58:11 -0400, Stephen wrote:
> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospam com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 10:45:38 +0100, Stephen wrote:
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>> > Mr. Fry says more than his prayers, when he wants to impress. IMO.
>>
>> Given his lack of religious convictions, that's pretty easy to achieve,
>> don't you think? ;)
>>
>>
>
> Oh! I dont know if you know the phrase. It means does not
always tell
> the truth.
>
> Stephen
Ah, that's a new one for me. :)
But I think all of us tell fibs now and again. I don't think I've ever
met anyone who's 100% truthful all the time, even those of us who try to
be.
Jim
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On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 05:50:57 -0400, Stephen wrote:
> I think that if you are not used to the system it is easy to read it as
> three times seventy seconds. Then when you realise what is meant you
> laugh at your embarrassment at getting it wrong.
Oh, yes, I think so as well. It's just that when I see a measurement, I
don't think in terms of time. ;)
> It is great how English words change their meaning depending on their
> context.
Yep, also true in other languages, too. :)
Jim
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On 22/07/2013 11:29 AM, scott wrote:
>> I especially enjoy how "and" sometimes means "or", and "or" sometimes
>> means "and". No wonder students suck at Boolean algebra! :-D
>
> After an hour of boolean algebra our teacher announced that people with
> birthdays in April and May should stay behind. Obviously a few people
> stayed behind only to get yelled at :-)
PWN3D!
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On 22/07/2013 5:24 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> Oh, yes, I think so as well. It's just that when I see a measurement, I
> don't think in terms of time.;)
Now we know why you failed your Time Lord exams. :-P
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Regards
Stephen
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On 22/07/2013 5:23 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> Ah, that's a new one for me.:)
>
It might just be an Irish and Scottish one. I have no way of knowing.
> But I think all of us tell fibs now and again. I don't think I've ever
> met anyone who's 100% truthful all the time, even those of us who try to
> be.
;-)
Don't get me started. I have a very low opinion of him as a person. I
will admit he is funny, though.
--
Regards
Stephen
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On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 19:44:23 +0100, Stephen wrote:
> On 22/07/2013 5:23 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Ah, that's a new one for me.:)
>>
>>
> It might just be an Irish and Scottish one. I have no way of knowing.
That could be.
>> But I think all of us tell fibs now and again. I don't think I've ever
>> met anyone who's 100% truthful all the time, even those of us who try
>> to be.
>
> ;-)
> Don't get me started. I have a very low opinion of him as a person. I
> will admit he is funny, though.
Well, you're not alone in that low opinion - he's fought depression for a
long time, and at times has a low opinion of himself, sadly.
I don't know him as a person, though, just as a comedian and occasional
user/champion of open source software (though he does seem to like his
Macs a lot).
Jim
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On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 19:40:24 +0100, Stephen wrote:
> On 22/07/2013 5:24 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Oh, yes, I think so as well. It's just that when I see a measurement,
>> I don't think in terms of time.;)
>
> Now we know why you failed your Time Lord exams. :-P
Well, I meant a distance measurement. I only made it to level 42 time
lord, though. ;)
Jim
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Orchid Win7 v1 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> I especially enjoy how "and" sometimes means "or", and "or" sometimes
> means "and". No wonder students suck at Boolean algebra! :-D
I find it more interesting that the same word "or" is used in speech
for "inclusive or" and "exclusive or", yet it very rarely, if ever,
causes any confusion.
For instance, if you say something like "the price includes a cup of
coffee or tea", nobody will think that the price includes both. It's
quite clearly an exclusive "or".
However, if you say "the job requires a degree in mathematics or
computer science", it's quite clear that it's in no way an impediment
if you have a degree in both. It's clearly an inclusive "or".
Are there any practical situations where this can cause confusion?
--
- Warp
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On 23/07/2013 02:27 PM, Warp wrote:
> Orchid Win7 v1<voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> I especially enjoy how "and" sometimes means "or", and "or" sometimes
>> means "and". No wonder students suck at Boolean algebra! :-D
>
> I find it more interesting that the same word "or" is used in speech
> for "inclusive or" and "exclusive or", yet it very rarely, if ever,
> causes any confusion.
Like I said, sometimes "or" clearly means "and", and vice versa, and yet
everybody understands this.
I suspect the mind does some kind of heuristic search, utterly ignoring
the word actually presented, and heuristically determines what
conjunction would actually make sense.
This is the "common sense" which humans possess and machines famously do
not. (Cue every Star Trek: The Next Generation episode involving
Commander Data's search for humanity...)
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Orchid Win7 v1 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> On 23/07/2013 02:27 PM, Warp wrote:
> > Orchid Win7 v1<voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> >> I especially enjoy how "and" sometimes means "or", and "or" sometimes
> >> means "and". No wonder students suck at Boolean algebra! :-D
> >
> > I find it more interesting that the same word "or" is used in speech
> > for "inclusive or" and "exclusive or", yet it very rarely, if ever,
> > causes any confusion.
> Like I said, sometimes "or" clearly means "and", and vice versa, and yet
> everybody understands this.
"And" is not the same as either "exclusive or" or "inclusive or".
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- Warp
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