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On 22-6-2013 12:32, Stephen wrote:
> On 22/06/2013 11:15 AM, andrel wrote:
>> quod non*.
>>
>> *) That is a latin phrase that is sometimes used in the Netherlands.
>> Might be uncommon in other countries.
>
>
> Au contraire. ;-)
I couldn't find much with google, might be because Dutch pages are shown
first. Google does try to decide what I should look at.
I don't know if I told the story before, but we were once reminded that
not all latin phrases are used equally around the world when we got this
back from a reviewer from one of our papers:
Review number 2: 1) Latin, i.e. 'Mutatis mutandis' may not be
understood by all. A goal of all published works should be clarity.
Do I need to point out the irony?
--
Everytime the IT department forbids something that a researcher deems
necessary for her work there will be another hole in the firewall.
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On 22/06/2013 11:43 AM, andrel wrote:
> On 22-6-2013 12:32, Stephen wrote:
>> On 22/06/2013 11:15 AM, andrel wrote:
>>> quod non*.
>>>
>>> *) That is a latin phrase that is sometimes used in the Netherlands.
>>> Might be uncommon in other countries.
>>
>>
>> Au contraire. ;-)
>
> Fabelhaft
>
I am not going head to head with a Nederlander. It seems to me that you
are all born speaking six languages. ;-)
I just meant that we use the French phrase instead of the Latin for that
thought.
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Stephen
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On 22/06/2013 11:51 AM, andrel wrote:
> Review number 2: 1) Latin, i.e. 'Mutatis mutandis' may not be
> understood by all. A goal of all published works should be clarity.
>
> Do I need to point out the irony?
"Eschew obfuscation" Thats wot I say. ;-)
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Regards
Stephen
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>> Random fact of the day: The percentage of monkeys who are tee-total is
>> identical to the percentage of humans...
>
> Cite your sources :-P
> Not xkcd, this time I hope?
The Discovery Channel. (Hence, it must be true...)
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On 22/06/2013 12:42 PM, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>>> Random fact of the day: The percentage of monkeys who are tee-total is
>>> identical to the percentage of humans...
>>
>> Cite your sources :-P
>> Not xkcd, this time I hope?
>
> The Discovery Channel. (Hence, it must be true...)
I accept that. (It was in colour, I presume?)
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Stephen
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On 22-6-2013 13:21, Stephen wrote:
> On 22/06/2013 11:43 AM, andrel wrote:
>> On 22-6-2013 12:32, Stephen wrote:
>>> On 22/06/2013 11:15 AM, andrel wrote:
>>>> quod non*.
>>>>
>>>> *) That is a latin phrase that is sometimes used in the Netherlands.
>>>> Might be uncommon in other countries.
>>>
>>>
>>> Au contraire. ;-)
>>
>> Fabelhaft
>>
>
> I am not going head to head with a Nederlander. It seems to me that you
> are all born speaking six languages. ;-)
>
> I just meant that we use the French phrase instead of the Latin for that
> thought.
>
sorry I didn't get that. I thought you meant that it was not uncommon.
So that is why I was happy with the answer.
We are not born with six, but most of us have in the education system
some exposure to four languages Dutch, English, German and French. At
least when I was young. Nowadays either German or French can apparently
be replaced by Spanish, Russian, Turkish, Italian or Arab (why not
chinese?) .
I have to admit I also had Latin and some ancient Greek, so that makes
indeed 6 for me I am afraid ;)
--
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andrel <byt### [at] gmail com> wrote:
> On 22-6-2013 11:15, Warp wrote:
> > andrel <byt### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> >> if you really want to know, I don't drink alcohol, never did and
> >> probably never will.
> >
> > A bit of it sometimes is actually healthy. (Also, things like red wine
> > have other beneficial nutrients, such as antioxidants.)
> I think that sort of implicitly implies that you think you know why I
> don't drink, quod non*.
To write it in such long-winded manner and with such an emphasis as
"I don't drink alcohol, never did and probably never will" gives the
strong impression that it's not simply a question of pure indifference,
and never having drinked being just how things came to be rather than it
having been a conscious decision.
It gives the impression that you have made a decision why you "don't drink
and probably never will." That it's a conscious choice.
What I have found is that most people who have made the choice and avoid
it as a matter of principle do not have all their facts straight. It's
more akin to "knives are being used to kill people, therefore I never
touch a knife and never will."
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- Warp
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On 22/06/2013 1:03 PM, andrel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Au contraire. ;-)
>>>
>>> Fabelhaft
>>>
>>
>> I am not going head to head with a Nederlander. It seems to me that you
>> are all born speaking six languages. ;-)
>>
>> I just meant that we use the French phrase instead of the Latin for that
>> thought.
>>
> sorry I didn't get that. I thought you meant that it was not uncommon.
> So that is why I was happy with the answer.
>
My fault, it was ambiguous with what I quoted. The subject was not obvious.
> We are not born with six, but most of us have in the education system
> some exposure to four languages Dutch, English, German and French. At
> least when I was young. Nowadays either German or French can apparently
> be replaced by Spanish, Russian, Turkish, Italian or Arab (why not
> chinese?) .
I've worked in Eindhoven and also for Royal Dutch Shell an have always
been impressed by the general standard of Education in the Nederlands.
The first time I encountered it was on a course in Paris. I remarked to
my Dutch companion how bad the tourist soundtrack was in a lift. He
replied that it was okay for me just hearing it one, in English. He had
to listen to it in six languages. (Six might be an exaggeration.)
> I have to admit I also had Latin and some ancient Greek, so that makes
> indeed 6 for me I am afraid ;)
>
>
No! Six was not an exaggeration, then. ;-)
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Stephen
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>>> Cite your sources :-P
>>> Not xkcd, this time I hope?
>>
>> The Discovery Channel. (Hence, it must be true...)
>
> I accept that. (It was in colour, I presume?)
Yeah. I don't recall the exact program, but they were on some tropical
island that has monkeys - and tourists. They showed you how the monkeys
like to sneak in and drink the booze that the tourists didn't drink. (Or
maybe just didn't drink YET; they're cheeky monkeys...)
Some of these monkeys were clearly addicted to the stuff. Others were
completely uninterested. A team of scientists were studying this
phenomenon, because - they claimed - the percentages matched human
populations, which they found rather exciting.
I wonder if they ever concluded their research?
Also, did they use a chi-squared test, or a G-test?
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On 22-6-2013 14:20, Warp wrote:
> andrel <byt### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>> On 22-6-2013 11:15, Warp wrote:
>>> andrel <byt### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>>>> if you really want to know, I don't drink alcohol, never did and
>>>> probably never will.
>>>
>>> A bit of it sometimes is actually healthy. (Also, things like red wine
>>> have other beneficial nutrients, such as antioxidants.)
>
>> I think that sort of implicitly implies that you think you know why I
>> don't drink, quod non*.
>
> To write it in such long-winded manner and with such an emphasis as
> "I don't drink alcohol, never did and probably never will" gives the
> strong impression that it's not simply a question of pure indifference,
> and never having drinked being just how things came to be rather than it
> having been a conscious decision.
That is not emphasis, just matter of fact.
> It gives the impression that you have made a decision why you "don't drink
> and probably never will." That it's a conscious choice.
One explanation is that I was such a loner at the age when most kids
start that I did not have enough peer pressure. That none of my parent
did drink during my childhood might also have been a factor.
I am too old now to change my habits (and it taste horrible).
[ok, that is not the full story but it will have to do for you].
> What I have found is that most people who have made the choice and avoid
> it as a matter of principle do not have all their facts straight. It's
> more akin to "knives are being used to kill people, therefore I never
> touch a knife and never will."
There was a large teetotaller movement in the first half of the last
century (and before) in the Netherlands and elsewhere. One of the
reasons given (e.g. by my father) was that many poor families were
starving because the men drank all the money. That is still a big
problem in many parts of the world.
My old boss was a teetotaller too. He lost many friends during the war
because of people telling too much under influence.
None of these reasons have anything to do with why I don't drink (except
indirectly via my father) but I don't think you can in general say that
these people didn't have their facts straight.
Alcohol itself is seldom a problem, the combination of alcohol, poverty,
and a male dominant society is. As is the combination of alcohol, a war,
and a resistance movement. Not to mention the combination of alcohol,
fast cars, and brick walls.
--
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necessary for her work there will be another hole in the firewall.
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