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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: The next chapter
Date: 21 Oct 2012 06:08:07
Message: <5083c987$1@news.povray.org>
On 21/10/2012 10:22 AM, Warp wrote:
> I have heard that there are many shops there where the parking space in
> front of them is actually owned by the shops, and it's forbidden to have
> your car parked in front of a shop while you are visiting a different one.
> If you want to go to one shop and then to another, you have to actually
> move your car, even if it's just by one parking space (to get to the
> other shop's parking space.)
>
> (Again, a "or that's what I heard anyway" disclaimer.)

I can't say that I have heard of that and it doesn't tie in with my 
experience of Americans. Who on the whole seem friendly and obliging. 
Surely if it is true it must be an isolated incident.

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     Stephen


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: The next chapter
Date: 21 Oct 2012 06:12:45
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Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> Who on the whole seem friendly and obliging.

Except if you are an atheist, that is. ;)

Atheism, the new communism (which in itself is the new witchcraft.)

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: The next chapter
Date: 21 Oct 2012 07:02:20
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On 21/10/2012 11:12 AM, Warp wrote:
> Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>> Who on the whole seem friendly and obliging.
>
> Except if you are an atheist, that is. ;)
>
> Atheism, the new communism (which in itself is the new witchcraft.)
>

I am just lost for words.

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     Stephen


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From: waggy
Subject: Re: The next chapter
Date: 21 Oct 2012 13:30:01
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Warp wrote:
> (Again, a "or that's what I heard anyway" disclaimer.)

All of the obervations so far have been true, and in some places, these
situations continue to this day.

For example, the street I live on, five miles (8 km) from downtown San Antonio,
TX (population >1M), did not have sidewalks until about a year ago, after the
city installed some hefty storm drains. Most local or state governments will
generally update streets to current standards after major construction.

Good books on this subject include "Asphalt Nation" by Katie Alvord, and
"Divorce Your Car!" by Jane Holtz Kay.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: The next chapter
Date: 21 Oct 2012 20:10:23
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On 10/21/2012 1:10, Stephen wrote:
> But how did you learn that Brits don’t go outdoors?

It was a joke because Andrew commented that the place two blocks away was
 
almost close enough to walk.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "They're the 1-800-#-GORILA of the telecom business."


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: The next chapter
Date: 21 Oct 2012 20:22:08
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On 10/21/2012 1:14, Warp wrote:
> of weirdo when he wanted to go to the grocery store by foot.

I've done that. The problem is not so much the walking as the fact that 
you're lugging groceries back. Buy a gallon of milk, and you won't be 
lifting your elbow above your shoulder for several days.

> I have heard rumors that there are neighborhoods in the US where there
> are no sidewalks at all, only streets.

Well, yes. Things like Beverly Hills, perhaps. Neighborhoods composed 
entirely of houses that have an acre of land around them and the houses cost 
ten million dollars and up.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "They're the 1-800-#-GORILA of the telecom business."


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: The next chapter
Date: 21 Oct 2012 20:24:31
Message: <5084923f$1@news.povray.org>
On 10/21/2012 2:22, Warp wrote:
> I have heard that there are many shops there where the parking space in
> front of them is actually owned by the shops, and it's forbidden to have
> your car parked in front of a shop while you are visiting a different one.

Sort of.

> If you want to go to one shop and then to another, you have to actually
> move your car, even if it's just by one parking space (to get to the
> other shop's parking space.)

Not really. What's much more common is that there are 500 parking spaces, 
and the 20 in front of the restaurant are reserved for the restaurant's 
customers. If you're going somewhere other than the restaurant, you park in 
one of the other spots.

Unless you're really obvious about it, like parking in front of the 
restaurant for the entire day, or actually being an employee of the 
restaurant and parking in front of the door, nobody is going to bother you 
about it. They have no idea whose car it is or whether they're in the 
restaurant, after all.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "They're the 1-800-#-GORILA of the telecom business."


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From: scott
Subject: Re: The next chapter
Date: 22 Oct 2012 05:21:37
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> I have heard rumors that there are neighborhoods in the US where there
> are no sidewalks at all, only streets. You are *supposed* to *always*
> drive a car there and, in fact, if you were to walk there, people would
> look at you suspiciously (because they would think you might be some kind
> of thief scouting the premises or something.) I don't know if this is true.
> (Sounds rather impractical to me.)

When visiting some suburb of Detroit (don't remember the name, near to 
the Ford place) it was exactly like this. I could see a shopping mall 
from my hotel window, but to walk there was a nightmare, involving 
walking along the road (no footpath leading up to the hotel), climbing 
over a barrier and crossing 4 lanes of traffic (although it wasn't that 
busy). The same thing happened when I tried to walk home from the office 
to my hotel, and I also noticed signs forbidding cycling on various 
roads near to the shops (such signs I would expect to cause an uproar 
amongst cyclists in any European country).


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: The next chapter
Date: 22 Oct 2012 09:45:10
Message: <50854de6@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> On 10/21/2012 1:14, Warp wrote:
> > of weirdo when he wanted to go to the grocery store by foot.

> I've done that. The problem is not so much the walking as the fact that 
> you're lugging groceries back. Buy a gallon of milk, and you won't be 
> lifting your elbow above your shoulder for several days.

I really think you need more exercise... :P

(Personally, I always use a backpack.)

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: The next chapter
Date: 22 Oct 2012 09:47:48
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> Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
>> Who on the whole seem friendly and obliging.
>
> Except if you are an atheist, that is. ;)
>
> Atheism, the new communism (which in itself is the new witchcraft.)
>

It depends where, in Raleigh, North Carolina, being the "wrong" kind of 
Christian is sometimes enough.

Neighbor:  Hi, welcome to the neighborhood.  Where are all y'alls from?
Cousin:  Ottawa, Canada.
Neighbor:  Ah.  Have you found a church, yet?
Cousin:  No, we've only been here 2 days.  We saw St-Something-Or-Other 
nearby, is there another one closer?
Neighbor:  Oh! You're Catholics... You know you'll burn in Hell!

(Neighbor left in huff and never spoke to them again for the 3 years 
they were there)

Disclaimer:  I realise not every North Carolinian is a Southern Baptist, 
and not all Southern Baptist is as closeminded as my cousin's neighbor.
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