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http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20111128
It's actually kind of astonishing that I know what this is about. There
have been no end of CAD strips that make no sense to me at all. I only
comprehend this one due to the freakishly unlikely coincidence that a) I
happen to have played this game, and b) my mother is physiologically
incapable of ever turning the TV off, whether she's in the building or
not...
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On 11/28/2011 04:15 AM, Invisible wrote:
> http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20111128
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> It's actually kind of astonishing that I know what this is about. There
> have been no end of CAD strips that make no sense to me at all. I only
> comprehend this one due to the freakishly unlikely coincidence that a) I
> happen to have played this game, and b) my mother is physiologically
> incapable of ever turning the TV off, whether she's in the building or
> not...
LOL ... even I recognize the assassin (only because my son has been
playing that game) ... like that hook he uses to scale buildings ;-)
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Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20111128
I know the game but I don't understand the joke.
--
- Warp
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On 11/28/2011 08:01 AM, Warp wrote:
> Invisible<voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20111128
>
> I know the game but I don't understand the joke.
>
+ all the pepper-spray controversy going on in the states police ala
occupy, and some woman nailed a couple of people in a queue at some
unnamed box box store (kings X)
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On 11/28/2011 08:07 AM, Jim Holsenback wrote:
> On 11/28/2011 08:01 AM, Warp wrote:
>> Invisible<voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>> http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20111128
>>
>> I know the game but I don't understand the joke.
>>
> + all the pepper-spray controversy going on in the states police ala
> occupy, and some woman nailed a couple of people in a queue at some
> unnamed box box store (kings X)
LOL .. big box that is
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On 28/11/2011 01:01 PM, Warp wrote:
> Invisible<voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20111128
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> I know the game but I don't understand the joke.
I'm presuming it's a reference to the news story about the women who
used pepper spray to get people out of the way so she could be first in
the line on Black Friday.
(I presume it goes without saying that to most people, using such
extreme violence in order to get a piffling 10% discount on a mere
computer game seems utterly insane to me...)
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> Invisible<voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20111128
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> I know the game but I don't understand the joke.
>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AdDLhPwpp4
Kinda ties neatly into the earlier thread about police abuse in the US.
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Francois Labreque <fla### [at] videotronca> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AdDLhPwpp4
> Kinda ties neatly into the earlier thread about police abuse in the US.
I find it curious that many human rights movements and other such people
consider things like pepper spray and tasers to be a form of torture that
can cause physical damage (eg. pepper spray can cause damage to the eyes
and mucous membranes) and even death (there are several cases of people
dying when tased), which goes blatantly against all international human
rights agreements, yet they are commonly used by the police all over the
world with impunity.
I have to agree: Why is it not ok to torture a prisoner with physical
or even just mental pain, but it's completely ok to physically torture
protesters who are not a danger to anybody?
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On 11/28/2011 5:35, Warp wrote:
> ok to physically torture
> protesters who are not a danger to anybody?
Well, it's *supposed* to be in preference to something even more violent. If
someone is attacking you, do you club them in the face, shoot them, or spray
pepper spray on them?
The whole reason it's controversial is exactly because it's happening to
people who aren't being violent.
Google "uc davis pepper spray" for all the news and videos and such.
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
People tell me I am the counter-example.
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> On 11/28/2011 5:35, Warp wrote:
> > ok to physically torture
> > protesters who are not a danger to anybody?
> Well, it's *supposed* to be in preference to something even more violent. If
> someone is attacking you, do you club them in the face, shoot them, or spray
> pepper spray on them?
Sometimes violence is an unfortunate necessity even in an ideal world
(ie. one where the authorities and the police force are completely exemplar;
and there actually are many countries where that's close to reality) in
order to stop violent criminals or other people who are clearly an imminent
danger to others and will not stand down on their own.
Because of this, as you say, non-lethal means to do this have been
developed in cases where the perpetrator is unarmed and killing him would
be way out of proportion, while still keeping the police officers themselves
as safe as possible. Pepper spray and tasers are two such inventions.
The problem is that in some countries the police has got completely
derailed with this. They have misunderstood "non-lethal" to mean the same
thing as "safe to use". For example in Britain it was at some point even
customary for the police to tase first, ask questions later (literally;
I'm not kidding.) AFAIK after enough people *died* because of this, some
of them completely innocent of any crime, the rules were changed.
Same with pepper spray. There are some countries (most prominently the US)
where it's used as some kind of standard way of controlling people, no
matter how peaceful they might be. This completely ignores the fact that
pepper spray can actually cause damage, permanent damage in extreme cases
(I think one of the most extreme cases is losing eyesight because the
pepper spray damages the eyes too much).
And of course there's the point of view that using such methods on people
who are not acting dangerously can certainly be seen as a form of torture,
which is against the most basic international human rights agreements.
Even if those people were technically speaking breaking the law, and even
if they outright refuse to stop, torturing them is still completely
unacceptable.
I have never heard or read any such misconduct from the part of the
Finnish police. There might have been some cases, but I have so far never
heard of them (which I assume means that even if there have been cases of
police brutality, they are pretty rare here).
In fact, I have seen some youtube videos from Finland, filmed by some
bystander using a cellphone camera, where the police arrests someone who
is acting violent, and in most cases they seem to be almost ridiculously
careful, and resort to extreme means only as a last resort. I don't remember
ever seeing them using tasers, much less drawing their pistols, against an
unarmed person.
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- Warp
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