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On 11/1/2011 23:32, Warp wrote:
> Darren New<dne### [at] san rrcom> wrote:
>> On 10/31/2011 23:41, Patrick Elliott wrote:
>>> in the end, *any* harvest festival pretty much "is" Halloween, we just ended
>>> up with the version that included costumes and candy.
>
>> Actually, we got American Thanksgiving, too. So double-plus there.
>
> What do you need two harvest festivals for?
One came with the europeans, one is (essentially) left over from the native
americans.
The one called "Thanksgiving" is traditionally represented by a bunch of
pilgrims and a bunch of indians (i.e., native americans) sitting down and
eating native american food like turkeys and pumpkins, and smoking tobacco.
The folklore is that it was the immigrant settlers making peace with the
natives, being helped through the bad winter by the more worldly native
americans because they hadn't harvested enough on their own.
Halloween might have come from the spanish immigrants or something?
day-of-the-dead sort of thing, or as you say from the irish immigrants many
years later.
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
People tell me I am the counter-example.
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Kevin Wampler <wam### [at] uwashingtonedu> wrote:
> I assume you were already
> aware of this though, but it's the main thing that came to mind.
One thing I have noticed is that Americans seem to be good at inventing
unhealthy food... For example I saw this video where they were trying
different foods at a State Fair, and they had things like corn dogs
covered in liquid chocolate. :P
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- Warp
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On 11/3/2011 12:00 AM, Warp wrote:
> One thing I have noticed is that Americans seem to be good at inventing
> unhealthy food... For example I saw this video where they were trying
> different foods at a State Fair, and they had things like corn dogs
> covered in liquid chocolate. :P
It sort of depends on where you are. Where I live the food is actually
pretty healthy. For instance there's quite a bit of vegetarian food and
the most common meat is probably fish. Southern cooking (by which I
mean the south-east US) is quite another story though. Do a youtube
search for "Paula Deen" to see what I mean. State fairs are also sort
of known as a place where you can expect to get the unhealthiest food
imaginable, particularly deep fried things and food-on-a-stick. For
instance, I've heard of fried Coca-Cola, fried ice cream, fried
Twinkies, and probably the worst, fried butter on a stick:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUJjW3I65e4
Really though, this sort of food in pretty rare and you'll only find it
at a few state fairs.
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On 03/11/2011 07:00 AM, Warp wrote:
> One thing I have noticed is that Americans seem to be good at inventing
> unhealthy food...
Chocolate-coated lard, anyone? ;-)
I remember our GM telling us they went out to eat and were given chips
that were first fried in lard, and then second-fried in duck-fat for
"extra flavour"...
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Le 03/11/2011 16:21, Orchid XP v8 a écrit :
> I remember our GM telling us they went out to eat and were given chips
> that were first fried in lard, and then second-fried in duck-fat for
> "extra flavour"...
Chips in pork's fat... then duck's fat.
What happened to the only reasonnable beef's fat ?
(well, if you want extra flavor, there is of course the option of
horse's fat, now that's one with a real strong flavor & taste)
IMHO, pork's fat is good for low temperature, long cooking.
Duck's fat hold high temperature quite good, but does not endure it too
long.
Ducks & covers for the vegetable oils coming soon to make bad chips...
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same here in Brazil. Cultural goodies exports... called here "dia das
bruxas", "day of the witches"
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On 11/2/2011 11:09 AM, Warp wrote:
> Darren New<dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Doesn't Finland have a harvest celebration, tho? Like Thanksgiving and
>> Mid-Autumn Festival and stuff like that? That's really all Halloween is,
>> except some Christians went and dressed it up in evil icons because it was
>> the pagan version of the holiday.
>
> Btw, now that you mention it and I looked it up, All Saints Day actually
> *is* an official holiday in Finland. De jure, at least. It's in the saturday
> between october 31 and november 6.
>
> However, it's a purely Christian holiday with its origin in Catholicism,
> rather than being a traditional harvest festival.
>
> In practice nobody celebrates this. Not that I know of. (Perhaps some
> churches might.) IIRC you don't even get a day off work (iow. it's not
> *that* official).
>
Don't get off work for Halloween here either. Not sure of government
workers though, those lazy asses seem to get everything off, which makes
using public transport, in places where its government run, pretty damn
useless on nearly every "holiday". I am sometimes surprised their isn't
a government, "We just don't feel like working today.", holiday. lol
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On 11/3/2011 12:22, Patrick Elliott wrote:
> "We just don't feel like working today.", holiday. lol
You mean like Labor Day, where we celebrate everyone who works hard by
taking the day off?
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
People tell me I am the counter-example.
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On 11/3/2011 10:37 PM, Darren New wrote:
> On 11/3/2011 12:22, Patrick Elliott wrote:
>> "We just don't feel like working today.", holiday. lol
>
> You mean like Labor Day, where we celebrate everyone who works hard by
> taking the day off?
>
Umm. No, actually Labor Day was a day set aside to remember how "Labor
Unions" helped save the US from child labor, 12+ hour work days, unsafe
work conditions, and helped us recover from the "last" depression. It
seems somehow fitting that the idiots now want us to think its for
"working people and corporations", and that, "labor unions are
destroying the nation". But, you can be forgiven, I suppose, for
drinking the coolaid, since it is "herbal" coolaid, and being "natural",
no one bothered to verify the ingredients for safety, or content. lol
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On 11/4/2011 21:11, Patrick Elliott wrote:
> you can be forgiven, I suppose, for drinking the coolaid,
Uh, it's a pretty classic joke, dude.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
People tell me I am the counter-example.
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