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Darren New <dne### [at] san rrcom> wrote:
> Oh, and it also has trouble responding promptly to user input for half a
> minute after you turn it on, with menus scrolling inconsistently and remote
> keystrokes getting queued.
> It's getting to the point where our consumer electronics is just as bad as
> our sophisticated and flexible computers.
It's almost becoming full circle. Back in the 50's or so it would take
a TV half a minute to warm up before the picture came on.
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On 18/10/2011 05:09 PM, Darren New wrote:
> But yah, the new Sony Bravia. You turn it on, it bounces around a bit,
> says "Hey, I'm a 46" TV! I'm gonna go black now to finish configuration
> of the hardware..." It then reboots. Then it says "Hey, do the initial
> setup, including telling me your network settings and all." Then it says
> "Thanks for the configuration! Now I'm gonna reboot!" Then it comes back
> and says "Hey, there's new firmware, do you want it?"
> 10%...30%...100%... "I'm gonna reboot to install the firmware!"
That's just poor. No other way to describe it.
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On 10/18/2011 9:42, Warp wrote:
> It's almost becoming full circle. Back in the 50's or so it would take
> a TV half a minute to warm up before the picture came on.
Half a minute? Try at least 3 or 4 before the picture was actually stable. :-)
I *am* amused that one of the selling points on the box is that it turns on
some 30% faster than the previous model.
Granted, it's a sophisticated beast, with a decent web browser, a wireless
DLNA renderer, a camera to notice you aren't actually watching TV any more
and turn itself off, control via HDMI of other various devices (like, you
can turn off the PS3 and/or sound system by turning off the TV if you set it
up that way), etc. For a thing like that, it's actually pretty quick to
start up and be ready. Faster even than the previous TV that did much less,
and 10x as fast as my phone (which also has poor responsiveness for several
minutes after being started up - when will people learn that desktop OSes do
real-time very poorly?)
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On 10/18/2011 10:04, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> On 18/10/2011 05:09 PM, Darren New wrote:
>
>> But yah, the new Sony Bravia. You turn it on, it bounces around a bit,
>> says "Hey, I'm a 46" TV! I'm gonna go black now to finish configuration
>> of the hardware..." It then reboots. Then it says "Hey, do the initial
>> setup, including telling me your network settings and all." Then it says
>> "Thanks for the configuration! Now I'm gonna reboot!" Then it comes back
>> and says "Hey, there's new firmware, do you want it?"
>> 10%...30%...100%... "I'm gonna reboot to install the firmware!"
>
> That's just poor. No other way to describe it.
Yet, in practice, nobody really cares.
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>> That's just poor. No other way to describe it.
>
> Yet, in practice, nobody really cares.
EXCEPT ME, of course...
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> with a decent web browser
What does a TV need a web browser for?
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On 18/10/2011 06:42 PM, Warp wrote:
> Darren New<dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> with a decent web browser
>
> What does a TV need a web browser for?
+1
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On 10/18/2011 10:42, Warp wrote:
> Darren New<dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> with a decent web browser
>
> What does a TV need a web browser for?
Why not? It also has widgets. And you can listen to pandora and watch movies
and netflix and youtube and all that. I mean, that's the goal of OSS, yes?
To make stuff like that available everywhere?
And I can turn on my TV and browse the pictures on my phone without any
other devices. It's pretty awesome, actually.
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On 10/18/2011 12:45, Darren New wrote:
> And I can turn on my TV and browse the pictures on my phone without any
> other devices. It's pretty awesome, actually.
Oh, and in theory, I should be able to play my media off my media server
either on the TV or the phone, and be able to upload stuff from my phone to
my media server. DLNA is pretty cool, if people were to actually implement
all of it, but I'm waiting for my new computer before I try to build the
whole thing up to where I can tell for sure if I can upload wirelessly from
my phone to my media library on Windows or whether I'd need to get some sort
of stand-alone server (or Linux box, for that matter).
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> On 10/18/2011 10:42, Warp wrote:
> > Darren New<dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> >> with a decent web browser
> >
> > What does a TV need a web browser for?
> Why not?
A TV may not be the optimal platform for surfing the web because of
several reasons. For one, surfing the web is most convenient with a mouse
and keyboard, or a touchscreen. Surfing the web with a remote control is
not very convenient, to say the least.
Also, a TV is usually far from the user. Even if it's a big TV and has
a high resolution (ie. is a HD TV), it may still be difficult to read the
smallest text in web pages. Usually devices used to surf the web (such as
computers, laptops, tablets, cellphones) are held close for a reason.
Thirdly, surfing the web requires a computer. A computer requires
additional electricity (on top of what the display itself requires),
which seems a waste, especially in the modern world economic situation,
not to talk about the climate.
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