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From: Invisible
Subject: Today's irritation
Date: 22 Jun 2011 05:57:25
Message: <4e01bc85$1@news.povray.org>
For some reason, it really *really* annoys me when people write "i.e." 
when they /obviously/ meant "e.g."

Apparently some people think these mean the same thing.


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From: Mike the Elder
Subject: Re: Today's irritation
Date: 22 Jun 2011 07:20:01
Message: <web.4e01ce943f60787085627c70@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> For some reason, it really *really* annoys me when people write "i.e."
> when they /obviously/ meant "e.g."
>
> Apparently some people think these mean the same thing.

Just ONE irritation... for a WHOLE day? To quote Monty Pythons "Life of Brian",
"You LUCKY, LUCKY..."

Oh, never mind  ;-)


(Mine are the use of the non-words "irregardless" and "nuke-u-ler" by supposedly
educated people such as public officials and broadcasters.)

Have a nice (i.e. pleasant) day. (e.g.  Spend time with good friends, eat tasty
and nourishing food and avoid all contact with chihuahuas.)

Best Regards,
Mike C.


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From: Le Forgeron
Subject: Re: Today's irritation
Date: 22 Jun 2011 08:03:56
Message: <4e01da2c$1@news.povray.org>
Le 22/06/2011 11:57, Invisible a écrit :
> For some reason, it really *really* annoys me when people write "i.e."
> when they /obviously/ meant "e.g."
> 
> Apparently some people think these mean the same thing.

Oh lucky you! (I agree)
One thing which annoys me is the usage of the English abbreviation "Mr"
in the French writing (where it should be "M.")
It goes everywhere, credit card, cheque ("check" for the other side of
the pond) and every commercial or business letter.
It's unfair, as the ladies have the right values (Mlle or Mme, not some
english Miss or Mrs).


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around.

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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Today's irritation
Date: 22 Jun 2011 08:11:32
Message: <4e01dbf4$1@news.povray.org>
Am 22.06.2011 13:14, schrieb Mike the Elder:

> Have a nice (i.e. pleasant) day. (e.g.  Spend time with good friends, eat tasty
> and nourishing food and avoid all contact with chihuahuas.)

And/or watch a good movie, e.g. "Schnappt Shorty" (i.e. "Get Shorty").


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Today's irritation
Date: 22 Jun 2011 08:29:03
Message: <4e01e00f$1@news.povray.org>
On 22/06/2011 12:14 PM, Mike the Elder wrote:
> Invisible<voi### [at] devnull>  wrote:
>> For some reason, it really *really* annoys me when people write "i.e."
>> when they /obviously/ meant "e.g."
>>
>> Apparently some people think these mean the same thing.
>
> Just ONE irritation... for a WHOLE day?

I've just had to sit through a bunch of procedure documents with this 
mistake repeated multiple times.

Curiously, I found this to be less annoying than the bad technical 
decisions in the procedures. (Oh, well, it's not like anybody consulted 
*my* opinion when they drafted the plan...)

> (Mine are the use of the non-words "irregardless" and "nuke-u-ler" by supposedly
> educated people such as public officials and broadcasters.)

I used to be annoyed by "orientated" when it should of course be "oriented".

I am now of course even more annoyed to discover that not only is 
"orientated" a genuine word that does actually exist, but that it's even 
the *preferred* word to use in British English. *sigh*

> Have a nice (i.e. pleasant) day. (e.g.  Spend time with good friends, eat tasty
> and nourishing food and avoid all contact with chihuahuas.)

Well, I'm going to go dance with myself tonight. And hopefully no dogs...


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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: Today's irritation
Date: 22 Jun 2011 08:33:45
Message: <4e01e129$1@news.povray.org>

> On 22/06/2011 12:14 PM, Mike the Elder wrote:
>> Invisible<voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>> For some reason, it really *really* annoys me when people write "i.e."
>>> when they /obviously/ meant "e.g."
>>>
>>> Apparently some people think these mean the same thing.
>>
>> Just ONE irritation... for a WHOLE day?
>
> I've just had to sit through a bunch of procedure documents with this
> mistake repeated multiple times.
>
> Curiously, I found this to be less annoying than the bad technical
> decisions in the procedures. (Oh, well, it's not like anybody consulted
> *my* opinion when they drafted the plan...)
>
>> (Mine are the use of the non-words "irregardless" and "nuke-u-ler" by
>> supposedly
>> educated people such as public officials and broadcasters.)
>
> I used to be annoyed by "orientated" when it should of course be
> "oriented".
>
> I am now of course even more annoyed to discover that not only is
> "orientated" a genuine word that does actually exist, but that it's even
> the *preferred* word to use in British English. *sigh*
>
>> Have a nice (i.e. pleasant) day. (e.g. Spend time with good friends,
>> eat tasty
>> and nourishing food and avoid all contact with chihuahuas.)
>
> Well, I'm going to go _dance with myself_ tonight. And hopefully no dogs...

You know that's a euphemism, right?

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Today's irritation
Date: 22 Jun 2011 08:42:19
Message: <4e01e32b@news.povray.org>
>> Well, I'm going to go _dance with myself_ tonight. And hopefully no
>> dogs...
>
> You know that's a euphemism, right?

I do *now*, obviously. >_<


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Today's irritation
Date: 22 Jun 2011 09:20:01
Message: <web.4e01eaf83f6078709a1bcfb90@news.povray.org>
Le_Forgeron <lef### [at] freefr> wrote:
> Le 22/06/2011 11:57, Invisible a écrit :
> > For some reason, it really *really* annoys me when people write "i.e."
> > when they /obviously/ meant "e.g."
> >
> > Apparently some people think these mean the same thing.
>
> Oh lucky you! (I agree)
> One thing which annoys me is the usage of the English abbreviation "Mr"
> in the French writing (where it should be "M.")
> It goes everywhere, credit card, cheque ("check" for the other side of
> the pond) and every commercial or business letter.
> It's unfair, as the ladies have the right values (Mlle or Mme, not some
> english Miss or Mrs).
>

But Monsieur also ends in r, like Mister! :D


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Today's irritation
Date: 22 Jun 2011 11:20:58
Message: <4e02085a$1@news.povray.org>

> Le_Forgeron<lef### [at] freefr>  wrote:
>> Le 22/06/2011 11:57, Invisible a écrit :
>>> For some reason, it really *really* annoys me when people write "i.e."
>>> when they /obviously/ meant "e.g."
>>>
>>> Apparently some people think these mean the same thing.
>>
>> Oh lucky you! (I agree)
>> One thing which annoys me is the usage of the English abbreviation "Mr"
>> in the French writing (where it should be "M.")
>> It goes everywhere, credit card, cheque ("check" for the other side of
>> the pond) and every commercial or business letter.
>> It's unfair, as the ladies have the right values (Mlle or Mme, not some
>> english Miss or Mrs).
>>
>
> But Monsieur also ends in r, like Mister! :D
>

In French, abbreviations takes the first 1 to 3 consecutive letters 
followed by a dot. They never take the first and last, nor a scattering 
of consonnent picked through the word.

So, for monsieur, if you take 2 letters, it should be Mo.(never used), 
not Mr, and Mon. (also never used) if you were to take 3 letters.



Alain


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Today's irritation
Date: 22 Jun 2011 12:02:35
Message: <4e02121b$1@news.povray.org>
On 6/22/2011 2:57, Invisible wrote:
> For some reason, it really *really* annoys me when people write "i.e." when
> they /obviously/ meant "e.g."

It bugs me that one of my bosses would write "qv" when he meant "q.v.", and 
wouldn't let me change it because then he'd have to fix it everywhere in his 
docs.


-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Coding without comments is like
    driving without turn signals."


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