Darren New wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
>> Well, that's another matter entirely, yes. I think you have to take 
>> police evidence as valid, because if the police themselves are trying 
>> to frame somebody, there's not a lot you can do in a courtroom...
> 
> O J Simpson.

Wouldn't Rodney King be a better example?  I don't recall there being 
much evidence that the police tried to frame O J.

...Chambers

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>> http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/0741445123
> 
> Wow. If he didn't get paid for *that* one, there's some definite bucks 
> he could pick up. :-)  A book publisher should definitely know better.

Ouch. That's just nasty...

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Chambers wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
>> Heh. I heard some guy got given a cheque and the customer forgot to 
>> actually sign it. The bank handed over the money anyway. (WTF?)
> 
> The vast majority of all checks get cleared automatically, with no human 
> intervention.  The software will read the routing and account 
> information, the amount, and look to see if something is on the 
> signature line which could conceivably be a signature.

Well, we're talking about a check handed to a mobile car mechanic. I 
don't know about you, but whenever *I* go into a bank and hand them a 
cheque, they always process it by hand. I doubt a guy who gets 12 
cheques per week is much different.

> If, on the other hand, the check were fraudulent, then the bank would 
> credit back the account holder, and deal with recovering the funds 
> themselves.  And believe me, banks are *very* good at recovering money 
> owed to them.

Haha. Yeah, banks know how to extract funds. ;-)

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> Gilles Tran wrote:
>> http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/0741445123
>
> Wow. If he didn't get paid for *that* one, there's some definite bucks he 
> could pick up. :-)  A book publisher should definitely know better.

The publisher is a print-on-demand company, aka a vanity press (at least 
they seem to be relatively upfront about this). Authors pay 500$ to get 
published, do the editing and the design work themselves and sign a 
disclaimer saying that they're the sole owner of the copyright (a CYA for 
the publisher I suppose). Even if the author asked Jaime for permission, I 
doubt that there's any money to be made here.

G.

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Orchid XP v8 schrieb:

> If one cop says you hit him, and everybody else follows the evidence, 
> you should be OK. If the entire judicial system actively tries to frame 
> you, there is no hope. The police can edit the video tape, alter the 
> medical reports, hire witnesses... you can't beat that.

What you describe would actually be the /executive/ trying to frame you.

And no, I don't think they have a /too/ easy time to fool the judicial 
branch of power.

Of course, if those two would team up against you, you'd be in /really/ 
deep trouble (which is why the two are separated in most democratic 
states in the first place... and the legislative power is in yet other 
hands, for that matter).

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Invisible schrieb:
> Michael Zier wrote:
> 
>> I like you, and coolness is overrated.
> 
> Heh. And you're the first person I've met who can pronounce Bach's name 
> properly. ;-)

"Michael Zier" - that sounds German, so it's not a big surprise he can :-)

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>> Heh. And you're the first person I've met who can pronounce Bach's 
>> name properly. ;-)
> 
> "Michael Zier" - that sounds German, so it's not a big surprise he can :-)

Indeed. It wasn't until recently that I realised that Bach was a crazy 
German guy.

Well, I mean... I figured out he was crazy when I was 12 or so. But it 
wasn't until this year I found out he was German. ;-)

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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> That too. Or lovely models or especially sets that aren't computer rendered.

  It's actually surprising how much miniatures are still used in movies,
rather than making everything with CGI. Yet, sadly, most people can't
appreciate the huge amount of work put into those miniatures because they
just dismiss it as a computer model.

-- 
                                                          - Warp

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Neeum Zawan <m.n### [at] ieeeorg> wrote:
>         At the same time, if they can make CGI that is very hard to tell from 
> real stunts, why should I value real stunts more?

  Because it's admirable when a film crew puts some effort and work into
making the film.

  Sad will be the day when movies will be made 100% by people sitting in
front of a computer and clicking with the mouse.

-- 
                                                          - Warp

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Chambers wrote:
> Wouldn't Rodney King be a better example?  I don't recall there being 
> much evidence that the police tried to frame O J.

If the glove doesn't fit, you must aquit!

Yes, the whole point was the cops used racist language, didn't properly 
label the evidence, etc etc.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".

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