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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Woo, GPU!
Date: 29 Jan 2009 04:00:52
Message: <49817044$1@news.povray.org>
>> So... unless I don't connect any SATA devices, it is *actually 
>> impossible* to fit this particular graphics card. Weeeeee!! :-D
> 
> Could you not fit a 90 degree SATA socket, like this one:
> 
> http://estore.asus.com/images/14-000107075.jpg

Hmm... It's possible. Would be a pretty tight fit though.

OTOH, I just remembered that my motherboard (being a high-end "delux" 
version) has a second SATA controller. So I think I can use the sockets 
for that. I forget where those are, but I think they're on a different 
part of the board...


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: The big picture
Date: 29 Jan 2009 04:02:53
Message: <498170bd$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> I'm not making this stuff up!!
> 
> How many horsepower in there?  They must be stallions! :D

715 gigaFLOPS, bitches!! :-D

[Er, but that's *peak* performance. And at *single* precision.]


Also... 182 W TDP? o_O
I think that's more then the *radiator* in my bedroom!


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: The big picture
Date: 29 Jan 2009 04:03:20
Message: <498170d8$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:

> We sell more than everyone else put together! How do we do it? Volume! 
> Our ads are louder than anyone else's!

I don't know about adverts, but I'm wondering how loud that fan is going 
to be... ;-)


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Woo, GPU!
Date: 29 Jan 2009 04:29:08
Message: <498176e4$1@news.povray.org>
>> http://estore.asus.com/images/14-000107075.jpg
>
> Hmm... It's possible. Would be a pretty tight fit though.
>
> OTOH, I just remembered that my motherboard (being a high-end "delux" 
> version) has a second SATA controller. So I think I can use the sockets 
> for that. I forget where those are, but I think they're on a different 
> part of the board...

That was going to be my next suggestion :-)  I have not seen a motherboard 
with all the SATA sockets exactly in the same place.  I think mine has a 
header near the back for an "external SATA" socket - but unused currently.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Woo, GPU!
Date: 29 Jan 2009 04:50:27
Message: <49817be3$1@news.povray.org>
>> OTOH, I just remembered that my motherboard (being a high-end "delux" 
>> version) has a second SATA controller. So I think I can use the 
>> sockets for that. I forget where those are, but I think they're on a 
>> different part of the board...
> 
> That was going to be my next suggestion :-)  I have not seen a 
> motherboard with all the SATA sockets exactly in the same place.  I 
> think mine has a header near the back for an "external SATA" socket - 
> but unused currently.


SLI chipset, which gives you 4 SATA II ports that can be configured for 
RAID. Gigabyte then added an onboard Silicon Image SATA controller, 
giving you an additional 4 SATA II ports. (This is on top of not one but 
*two* Firewire ports - one of them a faster Firewire-B port - two 
gigabit Ethernet ports [remember when those used to be expensive? This 
was back then!!], and of course SLI support [SLI was still very new.])

More impressive still, not only does the board have 8 SATA sockets, but 
THEY GIVE YOU EIGHT SATA CABLES!

COLOUR CODED!!

As one reviewer wrote, "penny-pinching is not evident".

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/finally-available,review-1164-12.html

 From the image here (which is for the GA K8NXP-9), it appears that the 
extra SATA sockets are on the bottom edge of the board, clear of the GPU 
bay. So that ought to be usable.


piece. How technology moves on, eh? (Remember, back then socket-939 was 
supposed to be "the next Big Thing"...)


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: The big picture
Date: 29 Jan 2009 05:03:36
Message: <49817ef8$1@news.povray.org>
On 1/29/2009 1:03 AM, Invisible wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>
>> We sell more than everyone else put together! How do we do it? Volume!
>> Our ads are louder than anyone else's!
>
> I don't know about adverts, but I'm wondering how loud that fan is going
> to be... ;-)

The larger the fan, the slower it needs to spin to move the same volume 
of air.

Most of the time, it should be quiet enough.  Unless you're playing a 
game, doing some heavy Photoshop stuff, running Vista with Aero, looking 
at it wrong, et cetera.  You get the idea :)

-- 
...Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Woo, GPU!
Date: 29 Jan 2009 05:04:42
Message: <49817f3a$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:

> http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/finally-available,review-1164-12.html
> 
>  From the image here (which is for the GA K8NXP-9), it appears that the 
> extra SATA sockets are on the bottom edge of the board, clear of the GPU 
> bay. So that ought to be usable.

Or, better yet, here:

http://www.giga-byte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec.aspx?ProductID=1867

Click to enlarge the image. You'll see 4 *yellow* SATA connectors. Those 
are from the nForce 4 chipset. You'll also see 4 *red* SATA connectors. 
These are from the Silicon Image SATA controller. (And so these don't 
have the RAID feature - which is "host-based RAID" anyway, as it happens.)

The box for the motherboard actually contains 4 red and 4 yellow SATA 
cables. And colour-coded IDE and FDD cables. And several types of PSU 
adaptors. And... Seriously, the box contains everything you could 
possibly need to set this board up. It was way more than just a 
cardboard box with a PCB in it! :-D

You can also see where the two PCI Express slots of the twin graphics 
cards are. (Remember, this is a 2-way SLI board.) I think my new card 
actually extends off the edge of the motherboard! o_O

Also, on checking, the card takes 2 bay slots - so looking at the 
placement of those PCI slots, it looks like you *could* fit two of 
these. At least, there's enough physical space. I can't believe that the 
airflow would be in any way "optimal" though...


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: The big picture
Date: 29 Jan 2009 05:07:00
Message: <49817fc4$1@news.povray.org>
>> I don't know about adverts, but I'm wondering how loud that fan is going
>> to be... ;-)
> 
> The larger the fan, the slower it needs to spin to move the same volume 
> of air.

Yes, but OTOH... if they fitted a fan this huge in the first place, this 
suggests it's going to need it. ;-)

I mean, Jesus, the card is 2 bays wide just so it can accomodate enough 
heatsinks and fans. It has a TDP of 182W!! o_O

> Most of the time, it should be quiet enough.  Unless you're playing a 
> game, doing some heavy Photoshop stuff, running Vista with Aero, looking 
> at it wrong, et cetera.  You get the idea :)

Really? Interesting. The fan on my existing card (nVidia GeForce 7900GT) 
spins at constant speed.

(As does the CPU fan. But that probably just means you need a special 
driver to throttle it...)


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: The big picture
Date: 29 Jan 2009 05:29:32
Message: <4981850c@news.povray.org>
On 1/29/2009 2:07 AM, Invisible wrote:
> Really? Interesting. The fan on my existing card (nVidia GeForce 7900GT)
> spins at constant speed.
>
> (As does the CPU fan. But that probably just means you need a special
> driver to throttle it...)

That's funny... you would think that a card that advanced would know how 
to throttle the fan.  My 4850 certainly does (in fact, I almost never 
hear it, even when playing games!)

-- 
...Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Woo, GPU!
Date: 29 Jan 2009 06:38:06
Message: <4981951e$1@news.povray.org>
> http://www.giga-byte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec.aspx?ProductID=1867
>
> Click to enlarge the image. You'll see 4 *yellow* SATA connectors. Those 
> are from the nForce 4 chipset. You'll also see 4 *red* SATA connectors.

Can't you use the other PCIe slot for the new GPU?  Or does the first one 
have to go in the right slot?

Does the GPU really cover all 4 of the SATA sockets? Wow.


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