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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Compiling stuff
Date: 17 Dec 2008 21:51:01
Message: <F9A08043ECFD4165BF529C09F5735A39@HomePC>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darren New [mailto:dne### [at] sanrrcom]
> Does it do both double and single entry bookkeeping (in different
> files,
> obviously)?  Does it download statements from your bank?  Does it
> export to
> tax preparation software?
>
> Those are the features I need. :-)

It only does double-entry.

It can download from some banks; in my case, my bank doesn't support ANY 
software downloading, so I'm stuck anyway (I actually contacted our IT 
department about this, and was told that the proper way to have your 
financial software "automatically" download statements was to go to their 
website, click on "download statement", and select my software to open the 
file by default!)


...Ben Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Compiling stuff
Date: 17 Dec 2008 22:53:42
Message: <4949c946@news.povray.org>
Chambers wrote:
> It only does double-entry.

OK, thanks. :-)

> financial software "automatically" download statements was to go to their 
> website, click on "download statement", and select my software to open the 
> file by default!)

Depending on the file format, this might be the right answer. :-)

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   The NFL should go international. I'd pay to
   see the Detroit Lions vs the Roman Catholics.


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Compiling stuff
Date: 18 Dec 2008 00:20:50
Message: <201661F15EB142E9BF7212AEE5A31B5D@HomePC>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darren New [mailto:dne### [at] sanrrcom]
> Depending on the file format, this might be the right answer. :-)

It might be the closest thing they have, but I would hesitate (and 
probably choke on my own tongue) before I said the software was 
downloading statements for me!

...Ben Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com

What's the difference between a drug dealer and a whore?
A whore can wash her crack and sell it again.


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Compiling stuff
Date: 18 Dec 2008 00:25:10
Message: <1B1A379001934D64A2E48CFD6D8F399B@HomePC>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Orchid XP v8 [mailto:voi### [at] devnull]
> Windows, on the other hand, is a vast lump of software purposely
> designed to be difficult to understand.

On the contrary, Microsoft spends a great deal of time trying to increase 
programmer productivity.  In fact, it's one of their core businesses.

...Ben Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Compiling stuff
Date: 18 Dec 2008 00:27:21
Message: <FA33296526FB4B69AF931BEE12DB798A@HomePC>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eero Ahonen [mailto:aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid]
> Well yes. Also Intel and AMD should be sued for selling processors able
> to do calculation needed in such things. Not to mention OS developers
> (MS, Apple, various Linux groups, Linus himself, etcetc) for making a
> software base that makes its part on making copying stuff possible. And
> harddrive makers, for making devices to *store* such illegal copies! Oh
> my, how can those companies do this for the community, it's so bad!

I wouldn't put it past the lawyers of this day and age to do just that...

By the way, isn't there a sin tax on blank optical media, based on the 
assumption that a certain percentage of them *will* be used to illegally 
copy material?

...Ben Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com


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From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: Compiling stuff
Date: 18 Dec 2008 01:42:57
Message: <4949f0f1$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Mueen Nawaz wrote:
>>     You have a checking account with $1000.
> 
> And where did *that* come from?
> 
>> It has a way to handle money coming in from nowhere (e.g.
>> someone giving you money), so I'm sure you can throw away some as well...
> 
> Not in double-entry bookkeeping.  If someone gives you money, it comes
> from the "we owe that person money" account. :-)

	I'm not getting the fussiness.

	When you start any accounting, don't you have some initial funds to
start with?

	In any case, just so that you know, the official way in Gnucash to do
this is that it has an "Opening Balance" account when you first begin.
That contains all that you begin with. You then move it from that
account to cash, checking, saving, credit cards, and any other
assets/liabilities you have. As in if you have $1000 in your checking
account, you'd move $1000 from the opening balance account to checking.

	I think that should satisfy double entry bookkeeping. I use that
account for stuff like beginning balance, money people give me (all 0 of
them), lottery winnings, etc. I pretty much ignore that account except
for those few instances.

	(And yes, you can rename that account to whatever you want, and
probably create multiple such accounts if you want to organize).


-- 
"I'm a lawyer." "Honest?" "No, the usual kind."


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                       >>>>>>mue### [at] nawazorg<<<<<<
                                   anl


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From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: Compiling stuff
Date: 18 Dec 2008 01:45:24
Message: <4949f184@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
>> financial software "automatically" download statements was to go to
>> their website, click on "download statement", and select my software
>> to open the file by default!)
> 
> Depending on the file format, this might be the right answer. :-)

	Well, if that's good enough for you, it claims to handle QIF, OFX/QFX
and a few I've never heard of. Nevertheless, the Options do contain some
entries for online banking.

-- 
"I'm a lawyer." "Honest?" "No, the usual kind."


                    /\  /\               /\  /
                   /  \/  \ u e e n     /  \/  a w a z
                       >>>>>>mue### [at] nawazorg<<<<<<
                                   anl


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Compiling stuff
Date: 18 Dec 2008 02:51:33
Message: <494a0105$1@news.povray.org>
>> Hmm, then some 3rd party releases firmware to copy DRM protected songs
>> to non-DRM protected format using the hardware, and the OEM gets sued to
>> bankruptcy for promoting such software to be developed :-)
>
> Well yes. Also Intel and AMD should be sued for selling processors able
> to do calculation needed in such things. Not to mention OS developers
> (MS, Apple, various Linux groups, Linus himself, etcetc) for making a
> software base that makes its part on making copying stuff possible. And
> harddrive makers, for making devices to *store* such illegal copies! Oh
> my, how can those companies do this for the community, it's so bad!

Yeh but AMD, Intel etc have not signed a license agreement for their CPUs 
with some DRM company that stipulates they go to reasonable efforts to 
prevent the DRM system being reverse engineered.  Typically this means your 
software shouldn't store any important decryption keys in a fixed RAM 
location for any significant length of time, and that access to the hardware 
is limited by eg cutting off unused IC pins or covering the IC itself in 
some very-hard-to-remove-without-destroying-the-IC resin.

But yes, if MS decided that on Vista they would offer a mechanism to save 
DRM files unencrypted, I imagine there would be some law suits :-)


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Compiling stuff
Date: 18 Dec 2008 11:04:55
Message: <494a74a7@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
> 
> Yeh but AMD, Intel etc have not signed a license agreement for their
> CPUs with some DRM company that stipulates they go to reasonable efforts
> to prevent the DRM system being reverse engineered.  

Well, that's true.

> Typically this
> means your software shouldn't store any important decryption keys in a
> fixed RAM location for any significant length of time, and that access
> to the hardware is limited by eg cutting off unused IC pins or covering
> the IC itself in some very-hard-to-remove-without-destroying-the-IC resin.

They could eg. make two-layered system, where first layer passes DRM'd
or plain audio to the second layer, which decodes the DRM and passes the
audio forward and give access to the first layer. That way different
control mechanisms, UI's etc (even support for new file formats, which
could be a no-bonus option from the DRM-parties) without letting to
crack the DRM's.

> But yes, if MS decided that on Vista they would offer a mechanism to
> save DRM files unencrypted, I imagine there would be some law suits :-)

They do offer a layer (OS), which makes possible to drive programs,
which decode DRM. Actually, the most famous and used one of such layers.
I think they just curse the pirates loud enough that they are believed
to be purely* on the DRM-gang's side.

*) Lets face it - piratism has made a strong part of userbase for
Windows and it still makes part of MS's profits. It also does decrease
MS's profit a bit, but I wouldn't be sure if the ending line is either
positive or negative. It would be best for them if their products
couldn't be pirated but everyone else's could, since a lot of other
companies products need MS-software to run on.

-Aero


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Compiling stuff
Date: 18 Dec 2008 12:00:04
Message: <494a8194@news.povray.org>
Chambers escreveu:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Orchid XP v8 [mailto:voi### [at] devnull]
>> Windows, on the other hand, is a vast lump of software purposely
>> designed to be difficult to understand.
> 
> On the contrary, Microsoft spends a great deal of time trying to increase 
> programmer productivity.  In fact, it's one of their core businesses.

They have to increase programmer productivity because otherwise it'd be 
impossible to deal with the difficult to understand Windows code. ;)


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