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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: On reflection
Date: 15 Aug 2008 14:32:15
Message: <ssiba458a647t4btdi3mntq6a96pmsfl5c@4ax.com>
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:19:07 -0700, stbenge
<THI### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:

>Oh well, we all get old!

If we are lucky ;)
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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: On reflection
Date: 15 Aug 2008 15:04:57
Message: <48a5d359$1@news.povray.org>
>> I still dislike walking anywhere by myself without somebody to protect 
>> me. I just find it very difficult to walk along and look nonchalant 
>> and stuff when I'm worrying about what everybody must be thinging of 
>> me - the way I walk, the way I dress, the way my face looks, etc.
> 
> This part sounds a bit like me, though I was not afraid to walk alone 
> for fear of getting my ass beat, but because I was super-self-conscious 
> about the way I walked and about my appearance in general. I thought I 
> walked funny, but I could never quite put my finger on *why* my gait was 
> odd. I always felt like people were watching me, judging me and thinking 
> I was stupid because I never felt normal when I walked. "Look at that 
> retard, he can't even walk normally!" As it turns out, my stride was a 
> little different than everybody else's, due to my long legs and short 
> torso. One good thing my ex gf did for me was to encourage me to put 
> emphasis into the movement of my knees, which has helped me smooth out 
> my steps and keep my head from bobbing too much. I'm still 
> self-conscious, but it's not nearly as bad as it used to be.

I'm thinking maybe I should take speach therapy to see if I can learn to 
stop talking like somebody with a brain disorder. I'm not sure if it'll 
work though...

>> And oh my God - I almost can't believe that I have an actual friend 
>> who is also a *girl*. ;-)
>>
>> So why am I not getting any? Hmm...
> 
> Hmm, indeed. :)

:-P

Ask me *after* Sunday.

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: On reflection
Date: 15 Aug 2008 15:08:24
Message: <48a5d428@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:

> I've been meaning to say. Have you ever thought of going to a martial arts
> class? With your size and build you would do well at judo. If you don't fancy
> wrestling (sometimes with ladies, OMG) you could give aikido a try.
> It does build up your confidence and you get to meet people. I see that MK has
> Aikido, Judo, Jui Jitsu, Karate, Tae Kwon-do and Tai Chi. I would not recommend
> Jui Jitsu, Karate or Tae Kwon-do but the others are quite gentle.

OK, two things.

1. Even having an actual gun in your pocket won't help you if you're 
outnumbered. I don't think this would make me feel any safer.

2. I'd be far too shy to even attempt to do something like this. I'd be 
too afraid of making an idiot of myself in front of everybody else.

(As one of my sister's many boyfriends once explained, his Jui Jitsu 
instructor once explained to the class "if a bunch of guys start picking 
on you in the street, *run away*! Don't try to do Jui Jitsu on them. It 
won't work.")

-- 
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: On reflection
Date: 15 Aug 2008 15:12:07
Message: <48a5d507$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> 1. Even having an actual gun in your pocket won't help you if you're 
> outnumbered. I don't think this would make me feel any safer.

"You can't shoot us all!"
    "I know. Who is first?"

-- 
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)


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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: On reflection
Date: 15 Aug 2008 15:24:22
Message: <48a5d7e6@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> This part sounds a bit like me, though I was not afraid to walk alone 
>> for fear of getting my ass beat, but because I was 
>> super-self-conscious about the way I walked and about my appearance in 
>> general.
> 
> I'm thinking maybe I should take speach therapy to see if I can learn to 
> stop talking like somebody with a brain disorder. I'm not sure if it'll 
> work though...

Well, it could help. I used to be self-conscious about my speaking 
habits too. I would try to talk fast so that people wouldn't think I was 
stupid, but as a result I found myself messing up way too often. I try 
to talk at a steady pace now, and have found that I can be understood 
more clearly. I don't withhold large words or concepts anymore, either. 
People respect you for treating them as an equal, not some elite jerk. 
(I'm not accusing you of this, for the record)


>>> And oh my God - I almost can't believe that I have an actual friend 
>>> who is also a *girl*. ;-)
>>>
>>> So why am I not getting any? Hmm...
>>
>> Hmm, indeed. :)
> 
> :-P
> 
> Ask me *after* Sunday.
> 

Hey, good luck! Maybe you'll get married and have children soon. Who 
knows, maybe your shyness is actually due to your wanting a real 
relationship, not some fling. Oh wait, that was me :)

Sam


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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: On reflection
Date: 15 Aug 2008 15:26:51
Message: <48a5d87b@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:19:07 -0700, stbenge
> <THI### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> 
>> Oh well, we all get old!
> 
> If we are lucky ;)

Luck is an open-ended concept...

Sam


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From: somebody
Subject: Re: On reflection
Date: 15 Aug 2008 15:41:02
Message: <48a5dbce$1@news.povray.org>
"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
news:48a5d359$1@news.povray.org...

> > torso. One good thing my ex gf did for me was to encourage me to put
> > emphasis into the movement of my knees, which has helped me smooth out
> > my steps and keep my head from bobbing too much. I'm still
> > self-conscious, but it's not nearly as bad as it used to be.

> I'm thinking maybe I should take speach therapy to see if I can learn to
> stop talking like somebody with a brain disorder. I'm not sure if it'll
> work though...

You'd be surprised how little other people care about how you walk, how you
talk, or about you in general.

(Not sure though if that's a good thing or not).


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From: Sabrina Kilian
Subject: Re: On reflection
Date: 15 Aug 2008 15:59:38
Message: <48a5e02a$1@news.povray.org>
somebody wrote:
> "Gail Shaw" <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote in message
> news:48a5419c@news.povray.org...
>> "Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
> 
>>> I don't consider 30 to be "young". I consider that to be "basically my
>>> life is almost over now".
> 
>> At 30?
>>
>> I'm a year older and as far as I'm concerned, the fun's just starting....
> 
> 30 is not the "end of life", of course - unless you are an olympian or a
> mathematician - but it's an age where the best years of one's live are most
> certainly over. Ages 20-25 is where humans peak both mentally and physically
> (generally speaking, there are of course rare exceptions). It's all downhill
> from there.
> 

If I peeked at 20-25, I should just cart myself off to a retirement home.

>> To quote a friend (speaking to the other people in the car at the time,
> aged
>> between 25 and 31) "You're a bunch of bloody kids"
> 
> Well, there's always denial <g>.
> 
> 

Don't tell me that, I've got another year before I turn 30! I refuse to 
believe that it's downhill after this. My goal is at least two gallery 
openings in one year!

It's an odd age though, at least for me. I'm stuck working with 40-60 
year old tenured professors on one side, and not even drinking age kids 
on the other. Caught betwixt cheerleaders on one side pushing envelopes 
and creating new challenges, and the 'meh, buy us beer' attitude on the 
other.


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From: Sabrina Kilian
Subject: Re: On reflection
Date: 15 Aug 2008 16:07:17
Message: <48a5e1f5$1@news.povray.org>
somebody wrote:
> "Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
> news:48a5d359$1@news.povray.org...
> 
>>> torso. One good thing my ex gf did for me was to encourage me to put
>>> emphasis into the movement of my knees, which has helped me smooth out
>>> my steps and keep my head from bobbing too much. I'm still
>>> self-conscious, but it's not nearly as bad as it used to be.
> 
>> I'm thinking maybe I should take speach therapy to see if I can learn to
>> stop talking like somebody with a brain disorder. I'm not sure if it'll
>> work though...
> 
> You'd be surprised how little other people care about how you walk, how you
> talk, or about you in general.
> 
> (Not sure though if that's a good thing or not).
> 
> 

You would be surprised at how much they notice, whether they admit it or 
not. Put a pebble in your shoe and walk with a limp, see how many people 
notice. I walk with a limp, never noticed it in high school till someone 
close by pointed it out. I assumed no one else noticed at all, that 
couldn't be why people out in large public areas watched me walk past, 
not at all.

I found that giving them a clue to why I limp, carrying a cane, gets 
less of a stare. They can process a lot quicker 'oh, she's got a hurt 
leg' instead of 'I wonder why that person is limping.'

If you really want to see how people file away their first impressions, 
though, you need bigger issues then a persons gait.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: On reflection
Date: 15 Aug 2008 16:12:23
Message: <rnoba4lcqms7clcbpd6ks9hsj9ulp7p0i8@4ax.com>
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:26:52 -0700, stbenge
<THI### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:

>Stephen wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:19:07 -0700, stbenge
>> <THI### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh well, we all get old!
>> 
>> If we are lucky ;)
>
>Luck is an open-ended concept...
>


Ooo! deep! ;)
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Regards
     Stephen


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