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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 31 Mar 2008 15:20:09
Message: <47f14779$1@news.povray.org>
>> Damn - what on earth could you possibly use 1 TB of disk for?? o_O
> 
>   Video editing. It's not even enough for serious work on that field.

Perhaps I'm not understanding correctly - video data typically eats a 
few GB per minute. So why do you need 1,000 GB? That's, like, several 
*hours* of video data. You'd have to be producing a feature film or 
something to need more, surely?


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 31 Mar 2008 15:21:34
Message: <47f147ce$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Like... what? Storing the entire season of Friends in uncompressed RGB 
> format? Even that surely wouldn't come close...!

You would be surprised. Say you have (oh, I don't know) a program that 
listens to 70 radio stations in a city, and you want to save a week 
worth of audio for some reason.  Calculate out what 70 channels of 
CD-quality uncompressed audio comes to.

> Oh, no, for a business it wouldn't be. I was thinking more for the 
> casual comsumer.

Right.

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     "That's pretty. Where's that?"
          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 31 Mar 2008 15:22:06
Message: <47f147ee$1@news.povray.org>

> BTW... it's possible to rip DVDs??

Sigh.


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 31 Mar 2008 15:24:24
Message: <47f14878@news.povray.org>
"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
news:47f14649$1@news.povray.org...
> >> Damn - what on earth could you possibly use 1 TB of disk for?? o_O
> >
> > My home server has close on 500GB of drives and is over half full.
> > Assorted downloads, pdfs, Virtual PC images, ripped CDs (mine), Ripped
DVDs
> > (mine), backups of the other machines
> > It adds up
>
> Wait, back up... virtual PC images?

Yup. Virtual PC (or virtual server). Both free downloads (From MS). Allows
you to install an OS and run a virtual machine as an application.
I use them for Beta software mostly. Also have a couple of software that
wouldn't play nice on the same machine, or that I don't trust fully.
The 'harddrives' of these are just files.
Very much like VMWare, just free

> OK, that'll do it by itself. The default install of Windoze XP eats well
> over 1 GB of space. Add Office for an additional 1 GB of space gone. It
> wouldn't take very many PC images to fill even the most cavernous disk...

The base Server OS image is about 3 GB. My SQL 2008 beta is about 1 GB.
Biztalk's a lot bigger.
They all base off the same server image, so it's not so bad.

> BTW... it's possible to rip DVDs??

Um, sure. You know those .iso files you see from time to time....

> > The quad core 2.4GHz is around R2000, the quad 2.66 is R4500. (The dual
core
> > 3.0 is R1800, Dual core 3.16 is R2500)
> > I'll leave you do do the curency conversions if you like (current
exchange
> > rate - R16.1 = 1 pound)
>
> Doesn't mean you can buy it for that over here.

Probably cheaper. Hardware's notoriously expensive here.


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 31 Mar 2008 15:25:07
Message: <47f148a3$1@news.povray.org>
>> It would *hardly* be the first time a superior technology has vanished 
>> for reasons unrelated to technology... sadly... :-(
> 
> I think the lack of ability to do multiuser work and the lack of ability 
> to get beyond TV resolution were at least as deadly as Commodore marketing.
> 
> These improvements were added after it was too late.

The Amiga has always been able to work at resolutions other than TV. 
That's just the default settings.

Commodore had a new chipset in development that was wildly ahead of its 
time - true 24-bit graphics, in an era when the PCs were just beginning 
to experiment with more than 16-colour video. Realtime blitting of 
24-bit graphics - apparently they had running silicon. Beaffed up sound 
capabilities too. But, for whatever reason, the project was shelved.

There then followed a series of phantom products that never actually 
made it to marked, until eventually CBM just ran out of cash and shut 
down. Several people bought the technology, continued to ship it, but 
didn't "do" anything with it, until eventually the PC marked was so far 
ahead of anything the aging Amiga could offer that it was pretty much 
game over.

I've yet to see any group of people as fanatical about a technology as 
the Amiga users though. Everybody seemed to utterly convinced the Amiga 
would fight back and retake the world, any day now... it just never 
came. Interesting social dynamic there...


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 31 Mar 2008 15:25:19
Message: <47f148af$1@news.povray.org>

>>> [What's it made of? Lead??]
>>
>> Silicon, mostly. a few threads of gold, maybe a ceramic outer case, 
>> with  a very small possibility of a heat-conducting metal pad. :D
> 
> AMD Athlon64 X2 4200+?

I have one o' those :)

> Have you *seen* the heat sink??

I still haven't opened my computer case since I got it...


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 31 Mar 2008 15:26:26
Message: <47f148f2$1@news.povray.org>
>>> Or how about PNGs from every single POV-Ray animation you do, 
>>> including test renders? :)
>>
>> Well, given that a typical PNG file is between 1 KB and 500 KB, 
>> that's... A LOT OF FREAKIN' FRAMES!!
> 
> You never did big renders, with frames +1MB?

If I'm rendering something in an animation, it's to put it on a DVD. 
DVDs only support extremely low spatial resolutions. (Even with the new 
HD technologies which will one day become commonly available, resolution 
is still extremely low.) Small images don't take up much space.

Now, large stills for Zazzle can get pretty big...


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 31 Mar 2008 15:28:47
Message: <47f1497f$1@news.povray.org>
>> BTW... it's possible to rip DVDs??
> 
> Um, sure. You know those .iso files you see from time to time....

OK, I rephrase: Can you actually *do* something useful with this data 
once you have it?


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 31 Mar 2008 15:30:06
Message: <47f149ce@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> [What's it made of? Lead??]
>>
>> Silicon, mostly. a few threads of gold, maybe a ceramic outer case, 
>> with  a very small possibility of a heat-conducting metal pad. :D
> 
> AMD Athlon64 X2 4200+?

That, too.

> Have you *seen* the heat sink??

He was talking about the little metal pad on the top of the CPU. The 
one, that connects the CPU to the heat sink.

> It's bigger than the damn CPU - by at least an order of magnitude!

Yes. OTOH, my C2D T5600's heat sink is 'bout same size as the CPU 
itself. It's connected to 'bout same-sized radiator with heat pipes. 
Then again, it's installed in a laptop...

> I'm presuming the whole thing is encased in solid metal to promote heat 
> dissapation or something...

The heat sink usually is one part of solid metal. But it's still is it's 
own part and not part of the CPU.

-- 
Eero "Aero" Ahonen
    http://www.zbxt.net
       aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 31 Mar 2008 15:30:42
Message: <47f149f2$1@news.povray.org>

> OK, I rephrase: Can you actually *do* something useful with this data 
> once you have it?

Yes, like burning it to another disc... Additionally, the DRM in DVD 
movies has been broken since 1999.


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