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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 1 Apr 2008 15:23:10
Message: <vb65v315srf28vvv6k4m2l35vcbonpd9i7@4ax.com>
On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:51:38 +0100, Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull>
wrote:

>Darren New wrote:
>> Phil Cook wrote:
>>> "And the first person who tries that gets told 'Millions of people 
>>> can't be wrong'"
>> 
>> Love it!
>
>PEOPLE ARE SHEEP! >_<
>
>[Hey, I guess that kinda lets Wales off the hook, eh?]

ROTFL Now St is going to visit with his wellies :)
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     Stephen


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 1 Apr 2008 19:24:57
Message: <47f2d259$1@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:
> I would assume you would need to know what the behavior difference in a 
> Word97 linebreak versus a normal line break.

Does the other standard actually lay out all the calculations used to do 
word breaks?  That would seem to be a rather limiting standard, actually.

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          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
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From: scott
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 2 Apr 2008 02:32:31
Message: <47f3368f@news.povray.org>
> Oh! Ctrl Alt Del doesn't bring up the taskmanager.

It doesn't on my XP machine either, it brings up the "Windows Security" 
window, where Task Manager is an option.

To get task manager I usually right click on the task bar at the bottom and 
choose it.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 2 Apr 2008 02:53:52
Message: <ipe6v315u672d6kjkduh7ll0ra9ua9hqih@4ax.com>
On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 09:32:54 +0200, "scott" <sco### [at] laptopcom> wrote:

>> Oh! Ctrl Alt Del doesn't bring up the taskmanager.
>
>It doesn't on my XP machine either, it brings up the "Windows Security" 
>window, where Task Manager is an option.
>
I does on my old XP laptop and that is where I usually shutdown or
hibernate from.

>To get task manager I usually right click on the task bar at the bottom and 
>choose it.
> 
That too :)
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     Stephen


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 2 Apr 2008 03:08:33
Message: <47f33f01$1@news.povray.org>
>>It doesn't on my XP machine either, it brings up the "Windows Security"
>>window, where Task Manager is an option.
>>
> I does on my old XP laptop and that is where I usually shutdown or
> hibernate from.

Hmm I think it has something to do with the user account settings and how 
you log on, on my gf's laptop she has that list of users with the little 
pictures to log on, but I have the normal logon box.  ANd of course on hers 
pressing C-A-D brings up the task manager instantly, but mine doesn't.

BTW I always put my laptop into stand-by mode, never actually shut it down. 
Otherwise I need to put in some pesky USB security key and password to get 
past the bios everytime I switch it on.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 2 Apr 2008 03:20:30
Message: <37g6v3l9dn4sfct6uuieii9qk2ojgg0oe7@4ax.com>
On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 10:08:56 +0200, "scott" <sco### [at] laptopcom> wrote:

>>>It doesn't on my XP machine either, it brings up the "Windows Security"
>>>window, where Task Manager is an option.
>>>
>> I does on my old XP laptop and that is where I usually shutdown or
>> hibernate from.
>
>Hmm I think it has something to do with the user account settings and how 
>you log on, on my gf's laptop she has that list of users with the little 
>pictures to log on, but I have the normal logon box.  ANd of course on hers 
>pressing C-A-D brings up the task manager instantly, but mine doesn't.

Oh! I only have one user account on that machine and I don't have to
logon. I do have a power on password. ;)

>BTW I always put my laptop into stand-by mode, never actually shut it down. 
>Otherwise I need to put in some pesky USB security key and password to get 
>past the bios everytime I switch it on.
> 
I usually hibernate mine but every now and again it needs a good
reboot. 
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     Stephen


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From: Phil Cook
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 2 Apr 2008 03:21:16
Message: <op.t8y5ilmec3xi7v@news.povray.org>
And lo on Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:48:53 +0100, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom>  
did spake, saying:

> Phil Cook wrote:
>> the security windows amusing as it doesn't answer the questions as to  
>> why do people want to turn then off nor why were they implemented.
>
> If you're getting "are you sure" instead of "enter your password",  
> you're running as administrator. That's the basic bad behavior people  
> have to be trained away from.

Yeah worked well with XP; people are people. If you told someone they  
should run as a LUser, but some of their programmes might not work/install  
and anytime they wanted to change some stuff they'd have to retype their  
admin password OR you could just run as an administrator (which appears to  
be the default option again) everything runs/installs fine and you just  
need to click on a button to confirm you want to run somthing; then what  
will people do?

The latest wonder is that Media Player won't start unless "run as"  
Administrator, doing a search reveals others with this problem and the  
curernt solution is to unistall any 'suspect' media players. So bye-bye to  
the only programme that'll play transport stream files and/or 4-on-demand.

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Phil Cook

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From: Phil Cook
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 2 Apr 2008 03:34:12
Message: <op.t8y533p6c3xi7v@news.povray.org>
And lo on Tue, 01 Apr 2008 19:23:16 +0100, Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom>  
did spake, saying:

> On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 18:17:12 +0100, "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Phil Cook" <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote in message
>> news:op.t8xqkvy4c3xi7v@news.povray.org...
>>
>>> Still annoyed that to shut it down you have to pick the arrow next to  
>>> the
>>> lock button which then displays a sad 98 style menu bar as if it was  
>>> some
>>> sort of afterthought (reading some articles it may well have been).
>
> Oh! A rant against Vista. Can I join in? :)

Sorry invitation only :-P

> I've also been using the trial version of office 2007 and I can't find
> anything when I want it. My F1 key is showing signs of wear. Great new
> job and new software, don't ya love it? :)

First experience with Word 2007 was trying to simply open a file on the  
network. The program started and I thought "So how the hell do I open a  
file?" No File, Edit etc. menu; no Open File icon. I flicked through the  
ribbons with no succes and hit F1 which directed me to the big windows  
icon in the top left corner which I hadn't even noticed. I suppose I could  
have tried Ctrl+O, just didn't occur to me at the time.

>>      My wife received a laptop from Father Christmas recently, and with
>> Vista Home, I noticed that too.
>>
>>        First thought was: "Weird!"
>>
> What lock button? Oh! Ctrl Alt Del doesn't bring up the taskmanager.
> Isn't that a step backward?

Yeah as discussed the default behaviour for Vista is the occasional  
behaviour of XP depending on the user configuration.

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Phil Cook

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From: Phil Cook
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 2 Apr 2008 04:42:34
Message: <op.t8y89aqgc3xi7v@news.povray.org>
And lo on Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:51:38 +0100, Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull>  
did spake, saying:

> Darren New wrote:
>> Phil Cook wrote:
>>> "And the first person who tries that gets told 'Millions of people  
>>> can't be wrong'"
>>  Love it!
>
> PEOPLE ARE SHEEP! >_<

http://content.apa.org/journals/psp/13/2/79.pdf oh and BTW it's not a pdf  
file

I do recall something like this, someone would stand on the pavement and  
look up at a particular point on a building. Passers-by would often also  
look-up and occasionally also stop. When a crowd has gathered the  
instigator would depart leaving said crowd of people staring up at a  
building with no-one having any idea as to why.

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Phil Cook

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From: Phil Cook
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 2 Apr 2008 04:46:04
Message: <op.t8y9e51ac3xi7v@news.povray.org>
And lo on Tue, 01 Apr 2008 16:36:07 +0100, Gilles Tran  
<gil### [at] agroparistechfr> did spake, saying:


> de
> news: op.t8xqkvy4c3xi7v@news.povray.org...
>
>> Still refuses to create or open an Access 2k database in Access 2k.
>
> Do you have the trial version of Office 2007 installed? There's a problem
> with references due to Vista's security requirements (it's explained in
> detail somewhere in the KB) so you can't have 2K and 2007 installed  
> without
> Access 2k crashing or doing weird stuff. Just uninstall the trial Office
> 2007 and it should work.

Odd I thought I'd answered this, oh well.

Yeah the trial version of Office 07 was on it, and got removed; then  
Outlook 07 was put back on. Stupidly I looked up the error code and  
googled that rather then 'why doesn't Access 2k work with 07' I'll have a  
look at that though I suspect the answer will be buy Access 07.

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--
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