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scott <sco### [at] laptop com> wrote:
> > They'd have to produce a new OS that was better then XP?
> I think that's the problem, it is pretty hard for MS to drastically improve
> on XP, but I guess they tried, and thanks to OEMs and software/hardware
> vendors we will all be forced to buy Vista at some point in the future.
I think that's the main problem with Microsoft: They have to try to
release completely "new and drastically improved" versions of Windows
each 5 years or so. In pratice, they have to create new versions of
Windows which they can sell at full price every time.
Free OSes such as Linux don't suffer from this problem. They can be
developed without any pressure, one feature at a time. There's no need
to create a new major version each 5 years. The OS is just improved
little by little, and most people just upgrade when they want, if they
want. There are no "big but bug-ridden major releases" of Linux. There's
no need for that.
Of course there may be "big but bug-ridden major releases" of some
specific linux distros, but even with those the problem is not as bad
as with Windows. There just isn't the same kind of commercial pressure.
--
- Warp
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And lo on Tue, 01 Apr 2008 16:36:07 +0100, Gilles Tran
<gil### [at] agroparistechfr> did spake, saying:
> de
> news: op.t8xqkvy4c3xi7v@news.povray.org...
>
>> Still refuses to create or open an Access 2k database in Access 2k.
>
> Do you have the trial version of Office 2007 installed? There's a problem
> with references due to Vista's security requirements (it's explained in
> detail somewhere in the KB) so you can't have 2K and 2007 installed
> without
> Access 2k crashing or doing weird stuff. Just uninstall the trial Office
> 2007 and it should work.
It was installed and got uninstalled, but it does have full Outlook 07 on
it now.
I looked up the exact error I was getting in the KB and it told me I was
trying to open a database that had been sorted in the non-default way in a
different language, which a) wasn't true and b) wasn't true. Nothing about
'oh by the way you can't have a 07 and 2k product installed on Vista at
the same time', but I'll have another look; thanks.
--
Phil Cook
--
I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com
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Doctor John wrote:
> It worked for me :-) I started to read the manuals after I had
> internalised the structure. I learnt POV much the same way. Ditto many
> other things I do. Manuals don't work with me until I've got a mental
> feel for the subject then I use them to polish the finished product.
> (Mixed metaphors all over the place but ykwim)
I should add that in the beginning I had a mentor who was able to point
me in the right direction if I was going hopelessly wrong but he agreed
with me that the best way to learn is by making mastikes. Doing it that
way often leads one to finding undocumented "features" and sometimes
even to useful insights about the utility/app being played with.
I don't recommend hitting the system with a large hammer but I certainly
advocate taking the back off, getting out a jeweller's loupe and gently
probing around with the recommended set of tools.
John
--
I will be brief but not nearly so brief as Salvador Dali, who gave the
world's shortest speech. He said, "I will be so brief I am already
finished," then he sat down.
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"Phil Cook" <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote in message
news:op.t8xqkvy4c3xi7v@news.povray.org...
> Still annoyed that to shut it down you have to pick the arrow next to the
> lock button which then displays a sad 98 style menu bar as if it was some
> sort of afterthought (reading some articles it may well have been).
My wife received a laptop from Father Christmas recently, and with
Vista Home, I noticed that too.
First thought was: "Weird!"
~Steve~
> Phil Cook
>
> --
> I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
> http://flipc.blogspot.com
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Phil Cook wrote:
> And lo on Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:21:46 -0000, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom>
> did spake, saying:
>
>> Doctor John wrote:
>>> Why is it that so many M$ users (present company excepted) defend their
>>> choice by pointing to the success of M$ as a company rather than being
>>> able to rationally discuss the pros and cons of Windows (all variants)
>>> as a stable and secure OS?
>>
>> Because non-technical people don't know about that stuff. They just
>> know that it can't be *too* bad if that many people are using it.
>> I.e., they look at the users, and trust the opinion of those who most
>> got it right.
>>
>> It's not science, it's politics.
>
> Another conversation
>
> "Millions of people can't be wrong!"
> "Why not?"
> "Um well because er if something was wrong then people would stop using it"
or
"And the first person who tried it got told 'Millions of people can't be
wrong'"
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On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 18:17:12 +0100, "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
>
>"Phil Cook" <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote in message
>news:op.t8xqkvy4c3xi7v@news.povray.org...
>
>> Still annoyed that to shut it down you have to pick the arrow next to the
>> lock button which then displays a sad 98 style menu bar as if it was some
>> sort of afterthought (reading some articles it may well have been).
Oh! A rant against Vista. Can I join in? :)
I've also been using the trial version of office 2007 and I can't find
anything when I want it. My F1 key is showing signs of wear. Great new
job and new software, don't ya love it? :)
> My wife received a laptop from Father Christmas recently, and with
>Vista Home, I noticed that too.
>
> First thought was: "Weird!"
>
What lock button? Oh! Ctrl Alt Del doesn't bring up the taskmanager.
Isn't that a step backward?
--
Regards
Stephen
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> Still annoyed that to shut it down you have to pick the arrow next to
> the lock button which then displays a sad 98 style menu bar as if it was
> some sort of afterthought (reading some articles it may well have been).
An afterthought that took a year to "plan".
http://moishelettvin.blogspot.com/2006/11/windows-shutdown-crapfest.html
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"Stephen" <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote in message
news:18v4v31556shbvmt7cgjtbqepeldui5hia@4ax.com...
> I've also been using the trial version of office 2007 and I can't find
> anything when I want it. My F1 key is showing signs of wear. Great new
> job and new software, don't ya love it? :)
If I may suggest...
Take an hour or so and explore the ribbon bars. Once you get used to it it's
actually not too bad.
Biggest problem I have these days is switching between 2007 on the laptop,
2003 on my office machine and 2000 on my home desktop
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Phil Cook wrote:
> "And the first person who tries that gets told 'Millions of people can't
> be wrong'"
Love it!
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
"That's pretty. Where's that?"
"It's the Age of Channelwood."
"We should go there on vacation some time."
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Phil Cook wrote:
> the security windows amusing as it doesn't answer the questions as to
> why do people want to turn then off nor why were they implemented.
If you're getting "are you sure" instead of "enter your password",
you're running as administrator. That's the basic bad behavior people
have to be trained away from.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
"That's pretty. Where's that?"
"It's the Age of Channelwood."
"We should go there on vacation some time."
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