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From: peter puzzelaar
Subject: Re: povray with moray using win7
Date: 8 Apr 2012 15:00:02
Message: <web.4f81dfe99ffdc0e547437ba70@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mcavoys_at@aoldotcom> wrote:
> On 08/04/2012 10:18 AM, peter puzzelaar wrote:
> > I recall from memory that Moray 3.5 is able to start up Povray 3.5.
> > But it seems to me that this point is moot, since Povray 3.5 cannot render any
> > file by itself (under my Win7).
>
> Okay one step at a time.
> Can you open Povray.ini and pvengin.ini from the tools menu?
> When you start Pov 3.5 are they any relevant messages in the message window?
>
> --
> Regards
>      Stephen


I got the distinct feeling, some of my responses are getting lost...

I can open (edit) both of these files
And at startup the messages window does not show anything noteworthy.

Regards, Peter.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: povray with moray using win7
Date: 8 Apr 2012 15:10:36
Message: <4f81e2ac$1@news.povray.org>
On 08/04/2012 7:58 PM, peter puzzelaar wrote:
> I got the distinct feeling, some of my responses are getting lost...
>

Sorry Peter I have been waiting for a response to a reply I sent hours 
ago. I will repeat it now.

On 08/04/2012 11:00 AM, Stephen wrote:
 > I have a laptop that does not have PovRay on it. I will download 3.5 and
 > see what happens.

Okay, I did that thing and got the same results as you.
I got Pov 3.5 working by going into the icon's properties and ticking 
the disable visual themes box in the compatibility tab. It might be 
better to do it to pvengine.exe

Do the same for Moray also set the compatibility to Win XP SP 3

I am sure that this will help but if not post again




-- 
Regards
     Stephen


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From: peter puzzelaar
Subject: Re: povray with moray using win7
Date: 8 Apr 2012 15:25:01
Message: <web.4f81e5099ffdc0e547437ba70@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mcavoys_at@aoldotcom> wrote:
> On 08/04/2012 7:58 PM, peter puzzelaar wrote:
> > I got the distinct feeling, some of my responses are getting lost...
> >
>
> Sorry Peter I have been waiting for a response to a reply I sent hours
> ago. I will repeat it now.
>
> On 08/04/2012 11:00 AM, Stephen wrote:
>  > I have a laptop that does not have PovRay on it. I will download 3.5 and
>  > see what happens.
>
> Okay, I did that thing and got the same results as you.
> I got Pov 3.5 working by going into the icon's properties and ticking
> the disable visual themes box in the compatibility tab. It might be
> better to do it to pvengine.exe
>
> Do the same for Moray also set the compatibility to Win XP SP 3
>
> I am sure that this will help but if not post again
>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards
>      Stephen


Will try it, u hear from me asap...

Regards, Peter


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From: peter puzzelaar
Subject: Re: povray with moray using win7
Date: 8 Apr 2012 15:30:01
Message: <web.4f81e6999ffdc0e547437ba70@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mcavoys_at@aoldotcom> wrote:
> On 08/04/2012 7:58 PM, peter puzzelaar wrote:
> > I got the distinct feeling, some of my responses are getting lost...
> >
>
> Sorry Peter I have been waiting for a response to a reply I sent hours
> ago. I will repeat it now.
>
> On 08/04/2012 11:00 AM, Stephen wrote:
>  > I have a laptop that does not have PovRay on it. I will download 3.5 and
>  > see what happens.
>
> Okay, I did that thing and got the same results as you.
> I got Pov 3.5 working by going into the icon's properties and ticking
> the disable visual themes box in the compatibility tab. It might be
> better to do it to pvengine.exe
>
> Do the same for Moray also set the compatibility to Win XP SP 3
>
> I am sure that this will help but if not post again
>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards
>      Stephen


Stephen,

In short: that simply worked! Rendering scenes files now works with POV3.5
together with Win7.
You'r the greatest.

I haven't tried it with Moray, but i see no problems ahead on that road anymore.
Just went straight back to this site to tell the good news.

Thanks buddy, long time since i've seen such perseverenced help.

Regards, Peter

P.S. will update this thread with final findings


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: povray with moray using win7
Date: 8 Apr 2012 16:24:24
Message: <4f81f3f8@news.povray.org>
On 08/04/2012 8:27 PM, peter puzzelaar wrote:
> Stephen,
>
> In short: that simply worked! Rendering scenes files now works with POV3.5
> together with Win7.

I am so pleased.

> You'r the greatest.
>
Oh dear! That means that I can't get any greater. I am so dissapointed. ;-)

> I haven't tried it with Moray, but i see no problems ahead on that road anymore.
> Just went straight back to this site to tell the good news.
>

I appreciate it. It makes it worthwhile.

> Thanks buddy, long time since i've seen such perseverenced help.
>

To be truthful, it is not uncommon here,

> Regards, Peter
>
> P.S. will update this thread with final findings
>

Please do and remember there is a thread specifically for Moray related 
things. It is http://news.povray.org/moray.win/
There has not been many posts over the last few years but Thomas and a 
few others keep an eye on it. And this group is probably not the best 
one to post on. There is also http://news.povray.org/povray.general/
for general discussion.
http://news.povray.org/povray.newusers/ for beginners and you will get 
more detailed answers.
http://news.povray.org/povray.binaries.images/ for posting images

And you can join us at http://news.povray.org/povray.off-topic/ to chew 
the fat.

-- 
Regards
     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: povray with moray using win7
Date: 9 Apr 2012 03:01:38
Message: <4f828952$1@news.povray.org>
On 8-4-2012 22:24, Stephen wrote:
> On 08/04/2012 8:27 PM, peter puzzelaar wrote:
>> Stephen,
>>
>> In short: that simply worked! Rendering scenes files now works with
>> POV3.5
>> together with Win7.
>
> I am so pleased.
>
>> You'r the greatest.
>>
> Oh dear! That means that I can't get any greater. I am so dissapointed. ;-)

Henceforward, you have been designated by majority consensus as the 
leading trouble shooter on this issue :-)

On a more serious note: I should reinstall Moray in the near future.

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: povray with moray using win7
Date: 9 Apr 2012 05:28:06
Message: <4f82aba6@news.povray.org>
On 09/04/2012 8:01 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:

>>>
>> Oh dear! That means that I can't get any greater. I am so
>> dissapointed. ;-)
>
> Henceforward, you have been designated by majority consensus as the
> leading trouble shooter on this issue :-)
>

Is that a consensus of one? ;-)
Anyway it has been almost 6 years since I have used Moray. So I am not 
the best person to be the guru.

> On a more serious note: I should reinstall Moray in the near future.
>

Why? You are doing well enough without it.
I need it or Bishop3D to help me visualise and build the scene. Without 
an import function it becomes less useful as PovRay SDL moves away from 
earlier versions.
I look forward to when development of Moray can restart.

-- 
Regards
     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: povray with moray using win7
Date: 9 Apr 2012 07:43:37
Message: <4f82cb69$1@news.povray.org>
On 9-4-2012 11:28, Stephen wrote:
> On 09/04/2012 8:01 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>
>>>>
>>> Oh dear! That means that I can't get any greater. I am so
>>> dissapointed. ;-)
>>
>> Henceforward, you have been designated by majority consensus as the
>> leading trouble shooter on this issue :-)
>>
>
> Is that a consensus of one? ;-)
Of course! I am the majority :-) Plus Peter makes it the majority + one....

> Anyway it has been almost 6 years since I have used Moray. So I am not
> the best person to be the guru.
>
>> On a more serious note: I should reinstall Moray in the near future.
>>
>
> Why? You are doing well enough without it.
> I need it or Bishop3D to help me visualise and build the scene. Without
> an import function it becomes less useful as PovRay SDL moves away from
> earlier versions.
> I look forward to when development of Moray can restart.
>
True that I am doing well without, but there are a couple of things that 
are interesting to do in Moray, especially a number of plugins. 
Otherwise, I prefer to build with meshes nowadays, which also render 
faster. Like you say, Moray is certainly useful in helping visualize 
scene building, which is also my reason to look forward to a new version.

Thomas


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From: peter puzzelaar
Subject: Re: povray with moray using win7
Date: 9 Apr 2012 16:35:00
Message: <web.4f8347649ffdc0e547437ba70@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mcavoys_at@aoldotcom> wrote:
> On 09/04/2012 8:01 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>
> >>>
> >> Oh dear! That means that I can't get any greater. I am so
> >> dissapointed. ;-)
> >
> > Henceforward, you have been designated by majority consensus as the
> > leading trouble shooter on this issue :-)
> >
>
> Is that a consensus of one? ;-)
> Anyway it has been almost 6 years since I have used Moray. So I am not
> the best person to be the guru.
>
> > On a more serious note: I should reinstall Moray in the near future.
> >
>
> Why? You are doing well enough without it.
> I need it or Bishop3D to help me visualise and build the scene. Without
> an import function it becomes less useful as PovRay SDL moves away from
> earlier versions.
> I look forward to when development of Moray can restart.
>
> --
> Regards
>      Stephen

It all works now: Moray3.5 can work togeter with POV3.5 on a win7 system.
Read back on this thread to find the how Stephen found the solution.

Many thanks to all people, who put in the effort to help me make a step forward.

Best regards,
Peter.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: povray with moray using win7
Date: 10 Apr 2012 03:05:33
Message: <4f83dbbd$1@news.povray.org>
On 9-4-2012 22:32, peter puzzelaar wrote:

> It all works now: Moray3.5 can work togeter with POV3.5 on a win7 system.
> Read back on this thread to find the how Stephen found the solution.
>
> Many thanks to all people, who put in the effort to help me make a step forward.
>
> Best regards,
> Peter.
>
>

Glad it works! I shall keep the solution in mind too ;-)

Thomas


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