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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Rainbow: Gradient Editor for POV-Ray
Date: 13 May 2015 12:58:21
Message: <555382ad@news.povray.org>
On 13/05/2015 17:22, Stephen wrote:
> On 13/05/2015 17:10, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 May 2015 06:13:02 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>>
>
>>> It must be an English Language thing then.
>>> Such perfection hinders learning another one. ;-)
>>
>> *snortlaugh*
>>
>> The perfection of importing words from other languages. ;)
>>
>
> Exactly!
>

Sorry I forgot Americans don't do irony.

Exactement!

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     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Rainbow: Gradient Editor for POV-Ray
Date: 13 May 2015 13:05:13
Message: <55538449$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 13 May 2015 17:58:20 +0100, Stephen wrote:

> On 13/05/2015 17:22, Stephen wrote:
>> On 13/05/2015 17:10, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> On Tue, 12 May 2015 06:13:02 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> It must be an English Language thing then.
>>>> Such perfection hinders learning another one. ;-)
>>>
>>> *snortlaugh*
>>>
>>> The perfection of importing words from other languages. ;)
>>>
>>>
>> Exactly!
>>
>>
> Sorry I forgot Americans don't do irony.

We do Steel. ;)

> Exactement!

But I thought we'd established that I'm not the typical 'murcan. ;)

Jim



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"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Rainbow: Gradient Editor for POV-Ray
Date: 13 May 2015 15:05:56
Message: <5553a094$1@news.povray.org>
On 13/05/2015 18:05, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Wed, 13 May 2015 17:58:20 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>
>> On 13/05/2015 17:22, Stephen wrote:
>>> On 13/05/2015 17:10, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 12 May 2015 06:13:02 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It must be an English Language thing then.
>>>>> Such perfection hinders learning another one. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> *snortlaugh*
>>>>
>>>> The perfection of importing words from other languages. ;)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Exactly!
>>>
>>>
>> Sorry I forgot Americans don't do irony.
>
> We do Steel. ;)
>

You also mangle pronunciation as well as spelling.

>> Exactement!
>
> But I thought we'd established that I'm not the typical 'murcan. ;)
>

You must carry the sins of your nation.


Have you heard/seen Reg D. Hunter?
He is so ironic when he says that Americans don't do irony. :-)


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     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Rainbow: Gradient Editor for POV-Ray
Date: 13 May 2015 16:11:21
Message: <5553afe9$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 13 May 2015 20:05:56 +0100, Stephen wrote:

>>> Sorry I forgot Americans don't do irony.
>>
>> We do Steel. ;)
>>
>>
> You also mangle pronunciation as well as spelling.

Well, the origins of Heavy Metal are 'mucan in nature, as I understand it 
(Jimi Hendrix, Black Sabbath, etc.)

>>> Exactement!
>>
>> But I thought we'd established that I'm not the typical 'murcan. ;)
>>
>>
> You must carry the sins of your nation.

Pah.  If I must carry the sins of mine, you must carry the sins of yours 
- and you have a longer history. ;)

> Have you heard/seen Reg D. Hunter?

Can't say I have.

> He is so ironic when he says that Americans don't do irony. :-)

Fe. ;)

Jim

-- 
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Rainbow: Gradient Editor for POV-Ray
Date: 13 May 2015 16:56:16
Message: <5553ba70@news.povray.org>
On 13/05/2015 21:11, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Wed, 13 May 2015 20:05:56 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>
>>>> Sorry I forgot Americans don't do irony.
>>>
>>> We do Steel. ;)
>>>
>>>
>> You also mangle pronunciation as well as spelling.
>
> Well, the origins of Heavy Metal are 'mucan in nature, as I understand it
> (Jimi Hendrix, Black Sabbath, etc.)
>

I thought you meant steal as in steal words from other languages. My 
mistake.

Sorry, you lost me with the switch to music.



>>>> Exactement!
>>>
>>> But I thought we'd established that I'm not the typical 'murcan. ;)
>>>
>>>
>> You must carry the sins of your nation.
>
> Pah.  If I must carry the sins of mine, you must carry the sins of yours
> - and you have a longer history. ;)
>

And I do, also for the sins of recent history.
I hereby apologise to the world for the British involvement in the 
colonisation of the New World and the Scottish settlers who became rednecks.


>> Have you heard/seen Reg D. Hunter?
>
> Can't say I have.
>

He is very funny with old world southern manners and charm.

>> He is so ironic when he says that Americans don't do irony. :-)
>
> Fe. ;)
>

Are we talking about metals again?

1 Corinthians 13

:P

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     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Rainbow: Gradient Editor for POV-Ray
Date: 14 May 2015 00:54:45
Message: <55542a95$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 13 May 2015 21:56:15 +0100, Stephen wrote:

> On 13/05/2015 21:11, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 May 2015 20:05:56 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>>>> Sorry I forgot Americans don't do irony.
>>>>
>>>> We do Steel. ;)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You also mangle pronunciation as well as spelling.
>>
>> Well, the origins of Heavy Metal are 'mucan in nature, as I understand
>> it (Jimi Hendrix, Black Sabbath, etc.)
>>
>>
> I thought you meant steal as in steal words from other languages. My
> mistake.
> 
> Sorry, you lost me with the switch to music.

I was borrowing a little bit from Cockney Rhyming Slang, but without the 
slang bit.

Irony -> Iron, Iron -> Steel (as in metal, steel production was pretty 
big in states like Pennsylvania), Steel -> Metal (to clarify), and then 
Metal -> Heavy Metal music.

The joke isn't funny once explained, sadly.  I suppose I could have also 
gone Steel -> Law & Order: UK (but then you'd have to know that one of 
the CPS prosecutors' names was James Steel, and given that it's a 
programme with US roots anyways, it wouldn't have been as clever).

>>>>> Exactement!
>>>>
>>>> But I thought we'd established that I'm not the typical 'murcan. ;)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> You must carry the sins of your nation.
>>
>> Pah.  If I must carry the sins of mine, you must carry the sins of
>> yours - and you have a longer history. ;)
>>
>>
> And I do, also for the sins of recent history.
> I hereby apologise to the world for the British involvement in the
> colonisation of the New World and the Scottish settlers who became
> rednecks.

You could go for something even more current than that - maybe even 
something that happened late last week. ;)

>>> Have you heard/seen Reg D. Hunter?
>>
>> Can't say I have.
>>
>>
> He is very funny with old world southern manners and charm.

I'll have to check him out.

>>> He is so ironic when he says that Americans don't do irony. :-)
>>
>> Fe. ;)
>>
>>
> Are we talking about metals again?
> 
> 1 Corinthians 13

You like to plumbum with your chin, don't you? ;)

Jim

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"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Rainbow: Gradient Editor for POV-Ray
Date: 14 May 2015 02:40:35
Message: <55544363$1@news.povray.org>
On 14/05/2015 05:54, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Wed, 13 May 2015 21:56:15 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>

> I was borrowing a little bit from Cockney Rhyming Slang, but without the
> slang bit.
>

And without the rhyming but as well, as far as I can see. :-)

You've got to be careful with Rhyming Slang. It doesn't travel well.
In Glasgow, for good friend we say China (China plate -> mate).
When I was working in Australia I called my best friend China much to 
her horror. I am colour blind and had forgotten she was Chinese.


>
> You could go for something even more current than that - maybe even
> something that happened late last week. ;)
>

If you are talking about our election. I am too gutted to find anything 
remotely funny about the situation. :-(

>>>> Have you heard/seen Reg D. Hunter?
>>>
>>> Can't say I have.
>>>
>>>
>> He is very funny with old world southern manners and charm.
>
> I'll have to check him out.
>

He has been on HIGNFY a few times.
I've not seen a full gig but what I have seen has tickled my fancy.

Here is a clip where he talks about racism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg6CTFwOalc

>>
>> 1 Corinthians 13
>
> You like to plumbum with your chin, don't you? ;)
>

LOL
Standard response from an old(er) person discussing current popular culture.



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     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Rainbow: Gradient Editor for POV-Ray
Date: 14 May 2015 14:45:15
Message: <5554ed3b$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 14 May 2015 07:40:34 +0100, Stephen wrote:

> On 14/05/2015 05:54, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Wed, 13 May 2015 21:56:15 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>
>> I was borrowing a little bit from Cockney Rhyming Slang, but without
>> the slang bit.
>>
>>
> And without the rhyming but as well, as far as I can see. :-)

Well, yeah. The slang is what rhymes, and leaving the slang out leaves 
the rhyme out too. :)

> You've got to be careful with Rhyming Slang. It doesn't travel well.
> In Glasgow, for good friend we say China (China plate -> mate).
> When I was working in Australia I called my best friend China much to
> her horror. I am colour blind and had forgotten she was Chinese.

Whoops. :)

>> You could go for something even more current than that - maybe even
>> something that happened late last week. ;)
>>
>>
> If you are talking about our election. I am too gutted to find anything
> remotely funny about the situation. :-(

Completely understood.

>>>>> Have you heard/seen Reg D. Hunter?
>>>>
>>>> Can't say I have.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> He is very funny with old world southern manners and charm.
>>
>> I'll have to check him out.
>>
>>
> He has been on HIGNFY a few times.
> I've not seen a full gig but what I have seen has tickled my fancy.
> 
> Here is a clip where he talks about racism
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg6CTFwOalc

Nice.  And how did I not know Dominic West was a brit?  I've been 
watching The Wire, and not once did it occur to me that he's not an 
American.  (Unlike Idris Elba, who I previously knew from Luther)

>>> 1 Corinthians 13
>>
>> You like to plumbum with your chin, don't you? ;)
>>
>>
> LOL Standard response from an old(er) person discussing current popular
> culture.

Heh, I guess my age is starting to show.  Used to be that I was too young 
to know what I was talking about, even when I was.  The body is catching 
up with the mind, it seems.  Hopefully the mind isn't regressing. ;)

Jim



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besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Rainbow: Gradient Editor for POV-Ray
Date: 14 May 2015 16:47:20
Message: <555509d8@news.povray.org>
On 14/05/2015 19:45, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Thu, 14 May 2015 07:40:34 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>
>>>
>>>
>> And without the rhyming but as well, as far as I can see. :-)
>
> Well, yeah. The slang is what rhymes, and leaving the slang out leaves
> the rhyme out too. :)
>

And it being a couplet. Like dog and bone -> phone, Apple and pears -> 
stairs. So next time give me a chance. ;-)

>> You've got to be careful with Rhyming Slang. It doesn't travel well.
>> In Glasgow, for good friend we say China (China plate -> mate).
>> When I was working in Australia I called my best friend China much to
>> her horror. I am colour blind and had forgotten she was Chinese.
>
> Whoops. :)
>

Woops indeed. But if you know me it is obvious I am a sinophile. :)


>>>
>> If you are talking about our election. I am too gutted to find anything
>> remotely funny about the situation. :-(
>
> Completely understood.
>

Funnily enough I found this amusing.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-32736153


>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg6CTFwOalc
>
> Nice.

Yes, by someone who makes a living by not being white. ;-)
Well done that man. :-)

> And how did I not know Dominic West was a brit?  I've been
> watching The Wire, and not once did it occur to me that he's not an
> American.  (Unlike Idris Elba, who I previously knew from Luther)
>

More power to his elbow, then. I've seen him on stage, years ago. Not 
that I remember him very well. It was Ibsin's Seagull and I was trying 
hard not to scream. Who cares. :-)



>> LOL Standard response from an old(er) person discussing current popular
>> culture.
>
> Heh, I guess my age is starting to show.  Used to be that I was too young
> to know what I was talking about, even when I was.  The body is catching
> up with the mind, it seems.  Hopefully the mind isn't regressing. ;)
>

Yes your viewpoint changes a lot and what you were passionate about when 
you were young takes on a different meaning.
I think that it is one of the things that annoys say, Americans and 
Australians, about the viewpoint of Europeans. I like to piss off the 
English who call themselves Anglo Saxons by calling them immigrants. :-)


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     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Rainbow: Gradient Editor for POV-Ray
Date: 14 May 2015 19:31:19
Message: <55553047$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 14 May 2015 21:47:18 +0100, Stephen wrote:

> On 14/05/2015 19:45, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 May 2015 07:40:34 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>
>>> And without the rhyming but as well, as far as I can see. :-)
>>
>> Well, yeah. The slang is what rhymes, and leaving the slang out leaves
>> the rhyme out too. :)
>>
>>
> And it being a couplet. Like dog and bone -> phone, Apple and pears ->
> stairs. So next time give me a chance. ;-)

Yeah, that too.  But hey, it has words, so that's something. :)

>>> You've got to be careful with Rhyming Slang. It doesn't travel well.
>>> In Glasgow, for good friend we say China (China plate -> mate).
>>> When I was working in Australia I called my best friend China much to
>>> her horror. I am colour blind and had forgotten she was Chinese.
>>
>> Whoops. :)
>>
>>
> Woops indeed. But if you know me it is obvious I am a sinophile. :)

That's true. :)

>>> If you are talking about our election. I am too gutted to find
>>> anything remotely funny about the situation. :-(
>>
>> Completely understood.
>>
>>
> Funnily enough I found this amusing.
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-32736153

Yeah, my wife noted that as well today.

>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg6CTFwOalc
>>
>> Nice.
> 
> Yes, by someone who makes a living by not being white. ;-)
> Well done that man. :-)

Yep.

>> And how did I not know Dominic West was a brit?  I've been watching The
>> Wire, and not once did it occur to me that he's not an American. 
>> (Unlike Idris Elba, who I previously knew from Luther)
>>
>>
> More power to his elbow, then. I've seen him on stage, years ago. Not
> that I remember him very well. It was Ibsin's Seagull and I was trying
> hard not to scream. Who cares. :-)

LOL

The thing is, I seem to actually remember his character in The Wire doing 
a bad English accent of some sort at some point.


>>> LOL Standard response from an old(er) person discussing current
>>> popular culture.
>>
>> Heh, I guess my age is starting to show.  Used to be that I was too
>> young to know what I was talking about, even when I was.  The body is
>> catching up with the mind, it seems.  Hopefully the mind isn't
>> regressing. ;)
>>
>>
> Yes your viewpoint changes a lot and what you were passionate about when
> you were young takes on a different meaning.

Very much so.

> I think that it is one of the things that annoys say, Americans and
> Australians, about the viewpoint of Europeans. I like to piss off the
> English who call themselves Anglo Saxons by calling them immigrants. :-)

LOL

Sounds like someone in a debate group I'm in who was insisting that the 
UK isn't part of Europe.  (Yes, he's British, why do you ask? ;) )

Jim
-- 
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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