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From: Chris R
Subject: Re: First image posting
Date: 25 Jun 2021 23:55:00
Message: <web.60d6a416f7d27fe6fb991d75cc1b6e@news.povray.org>
"Bald Eagle" <cre### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
> "Chris R" <car### [at] comcastnet> wrote:
>
> > Still not completely happy with the look and texture of the mortar, but I think
> > these bricks are a big improvement on the original without individually creating
> > each brick.
>
> I like this particular render of the bricks, since I know exactly what type of
> brick you are making.   The later render with all of the turbulence wrecks that.
>
> https://www.masonsmasonry.com/usercontent/Brick/No9Blend.jpg

The nice thing is that with about 2 lines of code changes I can have either
version.

I am also thinking about other ways of varying the depth of the bricks.  I am
currently using a moderately scaled f_snoise3d function to push the bricks out
and in from the intended plane of the wall.  It gives interesting effects where
bricks get pushed out at angles.  But there are other ways using warp repeat
patters where I could get the bricks to push out or in as a whole, allowing some
more interesting patterns of brick layout.

--
Chris


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From: Mike Horvath
Subject: Re: First image posting
Date: 27 Jun 2021 16:32:42
Message: <60d8e06a$1@news.povray.org>
On 5/7/2021 7:31 AM, s.day wrote:
> I can't say exactly what it is but the lighting looks odd maybe better radiosity
> settings.
> 

I have no clue why, but with LightSys I find I always have to crank up 
the lumens in order to get nice looking results. Otherwise, 90% of the 
time the colors are super washed out. Maybe the default behavior is 
realistic, but it doesn't look nice. To me it looks "wrong".


Mike


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From: Mike Horvath
Subject: Re: First image posting
Date: 27 Jun 2021 16:52:59
Message: <60d8e52b$1@news.povray.org>
On 5/3/2021 7:33 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Yes, I guess that is the crucial point here. Otoh, It can also be solved 
> by using a much simpler texture for the background, involving the same 
> colour_map scaled down, and without all the fancy stuff...
> 

But mipmapping has nothing to do with scaling, it is reducing the 
resolution or clarity. Is there a simple way to take a (traditional) 
povray texture and apply blurring to it? Is there a "blur" warp? In 
Photoshop or GIMP this is simple.


Mike


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From: Mike Horvath
Subject: Re: First image posting
Date: 27 Jun 2021 16:54:50
Message: <60d8e59a$1@news.povray.org>
On 5/3/2021 4:19 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> I conclude from that, that aa is the ray-tracing answer to mipmapping, 
> and I guess that my initial suggestion of stochastic aa is the correct one.
> 

Not just aa, but atmospheric media too, probably.


Mike


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From: Mike Horvath
Subject: Re: First image posting
Date: 27 Jun 2021 16:59:38
Message: <60d8e6ba$1@news.povray.org>
On 6/27/2021 4:52 PM, Mike Horvath wrote:
> On 5/3/2021 7:33 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> Yes, I guess that is the crucial point here. Otoh, It can also be 
>> solved by using a much simpler texture for the background, involving 
>> the same colour_map scaled down, and without all the fancy stuff...
>>
> 
> But mipmapping has nothing to do with scaling, it is reducing the 
> resolution or clarity. Is there a simple way to take a (traditional) 
> povray texture and apply blurring to it? Is there a "blur" warp? In 
> Photoshop or GIMP this is simple.
> 
> 
> Mike


https://github.com/t-o-k/POV-Ray-gaussian-blur

Just need to make the effect dependent on distance from camera.


Mike


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From: Mike Horvath
Subject: Re: First image posting
Date: 27 Jun 2021 17:25:27
Message: <60d8ecc7$1@news.povray.org>
I tried making a nice brick wall a few years ago and gave up.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/e/e4/20210131003342%21Rbg_spotlights.png

It's hopeless.


Mike


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: First image posting
Date: 28 Jun 2021 02:23:35
Message: <60d96ae7$1@news.povray.org>
Op 27/06/2021 om 22:59 schreef Mike Horvath:
> On 6/27/2021 4:52 PM, Mike Horvath wrote:
>> On 5/3/2021 7:33 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> Yes, I guess that is the crucial point here. Otoh, It can also be 
>>> solved by using a much simpler texture for the background, involving 
>>> the same colour_map scaled down, and without all the fancy stuff...
>>>
>>
>> But mipmapping has nothing to do with scaling, it is reducing the 
>> resolution or clarity. Is there a simple way to take a (traditional) 
>> povray texture and apply blurring to it? Is there a "blur" warp? In 
>> Photoshop or GIMP this is simple.
>>
>>
>> Mike
> 
> 
> https://github.com/t-o-k/POV-Ray-gaussian-blur
> 
> Just need to make the effect dependent on distance from camera.
> 

Ah! Good reminder, thanks! Never used it though but got it in a dark 
corner of my memory. ;-)

-- 
Thomas


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