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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Matinee #3
Date: 23 Mar 2011 19:53:00
Message: <4d8a87dc$1@news.povray.org>
Le 2011/03/22 11:52, Le_Forgeron a écrit :
> Le 22/03/2011 15:56, Robert McGregor a écrit :
>> clipka<ano### [at] anonymousorg>  wrote:
>>> Wow! I prefer coke with ice though, not ice with coke ;-)
>>
>> Heh, me too! But the snack bar kids always seem to fill the cup to the brim with
>> ice, and then whatever little remaining volume with cola.
>
> Basic economy:
> one m^3 of water (1000 l) cost about 3€ (from tap, around here).
> one m^3 of cola would cost around 800€ (from the price for 1 l when
> buying a 2l bottle @ 1.6€).(it's already overpriced)
>
> Ergo, the maximum profit is for more ice, less cola... as long as it is
> still callable a drink.
>
> Second interesting profit: ice is bigger than water, so for the same
> weight, the volume is bigger with more ice. The bigger it is, the
> happier the customer... put more ice!
>
>

In my area, tap water costs much less than that. It's classified as one 
of the best in the world. Filling a medium sized above ground pool would 
cost about $1 to $1.50 canadian... if we had water counters ;)




Alain


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From: Robert McGregor
Subject: Re: Matinee #3
Date: 23 Mar 2011 23:00:01
Message: <web.4d8ab2bc3c08001294d713cc0@news.povray.org>
No iconic movie villains or anything here (still laughing about Trevor's Vader;
probably because I /was/ that kid back in the 70s), but I finally got the
texturing finished and all the scene elements in place.

I'm not sure about the cheesy lens flare, but here's my latest WIP.

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www.McGregorFineArt.com


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Matinee #3
Date: 23 Mar 2011 23:17:11
Message: <4d8ab7b7@news.povray.org>
On 03/23/2011 11:55 PM, Robert McGregor wrote:
> No iconic movie villains or anything here (still laughing about Trevor's Vader;
> probably because I /was/ that kid back in the 70s), but I finally got the
> texturing finished and all the scene elements in place.

you guys are having WAY too much fun with this ... your character 
addition works well also

>
> I'm not sure about the cheesy lens flare, but here's my latest WIP.

It doesn't look /that/ bad ... maybe if the flare at the 6 o'clock 
position was behind his arm it might sell better ... dunno


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Matinee #3
Date: 24 Mar 2011 04:02:05
Message: <4d8afa7d@news.povray.org>
"Robert McGregor" <rob### [at] mcgregorfineartcom> schreef in bericht 
news:web.4d8ab2bc3c08001294d713cc0@news.povray.org...
> No iconic movie villains or anything here (still laughing about Trevor's 
> Vader;
> probably because I /was/ that kid back in the 70s), but I finally got the
> texturing finished and all the scene elements in place.
>
> I'm not sure about the cheesy lens flare, but here's my latest WIP.
>

Ha ha ha!!

There is a timing movement problem however. The liquid has hardly reached 
the kid and already he has reacted. Normally, there should be the lapsed 
seconds between the hit and the reaction... Aw! who cares? I like this a lot

About flares... I am going to show here very soon what I am working on for 
the TC-RTC. With a question about flares. Yours looks good though, but I 
confess that it is a difficult thing to get really right.

Thomas


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Matinee #3
Date: 24 Mar 2011 06:00:54
Message: <4d8b1656@news.povray.org>
Am 24.03.2011 04:17, schrieb Jim Holsenback:

>> I'm not sure about the cheesy lens flare, but here's my latest WIP.
>
> It doesn't look /that/ bad ... maybe if the flare at the 6 o'clock
> position was behind his arm it might sell better ... dunno

Lens flare occurs at the camera lens (hence the name :-P), so it is 
never hidden by any in-scene objects.

Same goes for most halos, unless they are caused by media around the 
light source.


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From: Trevor G Quayle
Subject: Re: Matinee #3
Date: 24 Mar 2011 08:40:00
Message: <web.4d8b3afe3c08001281c811d20@news.povray.org>
"Robert McGregor" <rob### [at] mcgregorfineartcom> wrote:
> No iconic movie villains or anything here (still laughing about Trevor's Vader;
> probably because I /was/ that kid back in the 70s), but I finally got the
> texturing finished and all the scene elements in place.
>
> I'm not sure about the cheesy lens flare, but here's my latest WIP.
>
> -------------------------------------------------
> www.McGregorFineArt.com

Looking pretty good.  I like the POV shirt you've added in.

-tgq


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From: Trevor G Quayle
Subject: Re: Matinee #3
Date: 24 Mar 2011 08:50:00
Message: <web.4d8b3d5f3c08001281c811d20@news.povray.org>
"Robert McGregor" <rob### [at] mcgregorfineartcom> wrote:
> No iconic movie villains or anything here (still laughing about Trevor's Vader;
> probably because I /was/ that kid back in the 70s), but I finally got the
> texturing finished and all the scene elements in place.
>
> I'm not sure about the cheesy lens flare, but here's my latest WIP.
>
> -------------------------------------------------
> www.McGregorFineArt.com

I have been looking at your back lighting on the chairs and was thinking at
first it was un-realistic and makes it seem like the projector is mis-aimed.
But I've been trying to find some reference images, which has been very
difficult.

One of a couple I found:
http://www.corbisimages.com/Enlargement/42-16491143.html

It does seem like there should be some backlight, though it's hard to tell how
much from this angle.  I'll have to see if I maybe need to incres it a bit in
mine.

-tgq


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From: Robert McGregor
Subject: Re: Matinee #3
Date: 24 Mar 2011 11:40:01
Message: <web.4d8b64dd3c08001286ff1d480@news.povray.org>
"Trevor G Quayle" <Tin### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> I have been looking at your back lighting on the chairs and was thinking at
> first it was un-realistic and makes it seem like the projector is mis-aimed.
> But I've been trying to find some reference images, which has been very
> difficult.
>
> One of a couple I found:
> http://www.corbisimages.com/Enlargement/42-16491143.html
>
> It does seem like there should be some backlight, though it's hard to tell how
> much from this angle.  I'll have to see if I maybe need to incres it a bit in
> mine.
>
> -tgq

Heh, that's the same photo I used to reference the backlighting yesterday.

I wasn't really trying to be physically accurate; I didn't even have a light
back there before, just an emissive projector lens. So for the backlighting I
placed a small area light in front of the lens, in a light group with the chairs
and kids, and tried various intensities until I thought it popped enough
(artistic license and all that).

I'm making a few more tweaks including: better clothing textures, the
"projection" of the "movie" in the window glass (thanks Edouard), dialed down
lens flare, and a slightly emissive aoi cone to simulate a bit of projector beam
(although you can't see much of it from my camera angle). I'll post an updated
(final?) shot later today.

Cheers,
Rob
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From: Robert McGregor
Subject: Re: Matinee #3
Date: 24 Mar 2011 17:40:02
Message: <web.4d8bb8d03c08001294d713cc0@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote:
> Ha ha ha!!
>
> There is a timing movement problem however. The liquid has hardly reached
> the kid and already he has reacted. Normally, there should be the lapsed
> seconds between the hit and the reaction... Aw! who cares? I like this a lot

Thanks Thomas :)
I'm guessing that either the kid heard someone behind him during a quiet moment,
or is psychic...

Here's what I'm thinking will be the final render - any critiques or criticisms
before I post to the challenge??

Thanks!
Rob

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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Matinee #3
Date: 26 Mar 2011 04:16:38
Message: <4d8da0e6$1@news.povray.org>
Excellent!

Thomas


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