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> Shay <ema### [at] yourhostcom> wrote:
> > Haven't seen that project in a while. Very nice. The building is
> > excellent. No more breaks. Get this done.
>
> Thanks for the encouragement; I plan to finish this thing
> before Summer, I'm ready to go on to something entirely
> different.
>
> I'm soooo slow... I know I'm going to be absolutely amazed at
> what the POVCOMP entrants acheived in a few months!
>
I'm full of admiration for people like you (and Tim Mc Murdo as well) who
can stay focused on a long planned project as yours.
I become fed up with an image after less than 2 months though I come back
working on old scenes time to time.

Keep up the excellent work.

BTW I was deeply touched by your "Innocent shadow"


Marc

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What can I say that has not been already said?
I am very impressed by your project. What I particularly like are the
textures which give an almost fresco-like appearance to the scene (at least
in the close-up).

Thomas

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"Renderdog" <slo### [at] hiwaaynet> wrote:

> Hi Przemek,
>
> Thanks for you comments. The perspective *is* rather extreme,
> and I'm still debating whether to stick with the 1-point or go
> to a 2-point perspective.

If it is intended to look like an old painting the orthographic version is
surely the best one. As I said I like this little unreal look and this is
what helps to make the specific charm. Many people will say this must be an
old painting - no way a computer-made picture :-)
Anyway setting the camera will be probably a nice play comparing to your
effort to model the whole scene. I hope you will render many different
views (both looking realistic and painting like) of your beautiful scene.

Przemek

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Renderdog wrote:
> I've generated different versions of the image, included here.
> "3" is the normal 3-point perspective. The problem here is the
> buildings appear to be leaning in, as they become smaller in the
> vertical distance.

   Yes, seems a bit inappropriate for that beautiful scene.

> "2" is the most commonly used perspective for buildings, it
> looks much more natural, though the buildings can look top-heavy.

   That looks very nice and natural.

> In "1", objects become smaller in only one axis, the axis into
> the screen. This produces a static image (fewer diagonals) and
> makes objects facing us appear perfectly square (unless they
> have depth, then they are distorted).

   This one is really strange... I prefer "2".

   Indeed, I'm really waiting to see this image finished... it's really 
promising, and you are almost there.

--
Jaime

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Check the scale of the roof tiles, they look a bit larger than the ones I  
have handled.
Although I have seen more than one size used here, but the smaller is far  
more common.

On Thu,  3 Feb 2005 11:03:41 EST, Renderdog <slo### [at] hiwaaynet> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Continuing to work on my Venice image, slowly making
> progress. Something not quite right about this building,
> but I can't put my finger on it; I'm too close to be objective
> any more.
>
> http://home.hiwaay.net/~slone/wip.html
>
> I sharpened and brightened this image so the details are
> clearer; the final image will be higher resolution and early
> morning light.
>
> Some may notice the top floor is modeled after a building in
> Verona, the Loggia del Consiglio.
>
> Any suggestions or criticism would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
> Mark Slone
>
>

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Renderdog wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Continuing to work on my Venice image, slowly making
> progress. Something not quite right about this building,
> but I can't put my finger on it; I'm too close to be objective
> any more.
> 
> http://home.hiwaay.net/~slone/wip.html
> 
> I sharpened and brightened this image so the details are
> clearer; the final image will be higher resolution and early
> morning light.
> 
> Some may notice the top floor is modeled after a building in
> Verona, the Loggia del Consiglio.
> 
> Any suggestions or criticism would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark Slone

Wow this is going to be amazing when it's finished!!

http://home.hiwaay.net/~slone/venice_html/Venice1024.jpg

Wonderful work. How long have you been working on this now?

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"Marc Jacquier" <jac### [at] wanadoofr> wrote:
> I'm full of admiration for people like you (and Tim Mc Murdo as well) who
> can stay focused on a long planned project as yours.
> I become fed up with an image after less than 2 months though I come back
> working on old scenes time to time.

Of course just because I'm taking forever doesn't make it good;
some of your work are my favorite POV-Ray images of all time.
My favorites:
http://marc.jacquier.free.fr/Atoll.htm (I can't believe it didn't win!)
http://marc.jacquier.free.fr/cuisine.htm

One thing that makes my project manageable is I can divide it
into smaller parts easily. But that also gives me an opportunity
for procrastination. I spent almost a year worrying about how
to draw a gondola when I should've just dived in!

Someone else asked how long I've been working on this, I'm
afraid it's getting close to three years now (taking Spring and
Summer off for bike racing). What surprises me is it hasn't
changed much from my original sketch. Maybe that's vision,
maybe just stubbornness :-).

> BTW I was deeply touched by your "Innocent shadow"

Innocent Shadow does evoke a strong reaction and I was very
happy about that. I made sure I could re-use the elements for
Venice, though one Japanese writer mentioned it looks more
European than Japanese, which is true.

> Keep up the excellent work.

Thanks, everyone, for the encouragement!

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"Daniel S. Matthews" <dan### [at] 3-enet> wrote:
> Check the scale of the roof tiles, they look a bit larger than the ones I
> have handled.
> Although I have seen more than one size used here, but the smaller is far
> more common.

Thanks for the tip, I'll try smaller tiles for this building.

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On Sat,  5 Feb 2005 10:00:46 EST, Renderdog <slo### [at] hiwaaynet> wrote:

> "Daniel S. Matthews" <dan### [at] 3-enet> wrote:
>> Check the scale of the roof tiles, they look a bit larger than the ones  
>> I
>> have handled.
>> Although I have seen more than one size used here, but the smaller is  
>> far
>> more common.
>
> Thanks for the tip, I'll try smaller tiles for this building.
>
>

Email me if you require exact dimensions. I have plenty of them here to  
put the tape measure against.


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> Of course just because I'm taking forever doesn't make it good;
> some of your work are my favorite POV-Ray images of all time.
> My favorites:
> http://marc.jacquier.free.fr/Atoll.htm (I can't believe it didn't win!)
> http://marc.jacquier.free.fr/cuisine.htm

Wow thank you! that's the kind of compliment that makes a nice day :))

Marc

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