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From: Sigmund Kyrre Aas
Subject: Re: Hydraulics (141 kbu)
Date: 4 Jul 2001 01:30:25
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On Tue, 3 Jul 2001 23:41:58 +0100, "Rick [Kitty5]" <ric### [at] kitty5com>
wrote:

>very nice! dont know if its just me, but i love the rhino renders 'with
>lines on'

Me to! IMO, It's easier to see the shape. A shame the aa isn't better
though.
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From: Sigmund Kyrre Aas
Subject: Re: Hydraulics (141 kbu)
Date: 4 Jul 2001 01:42:35
Message: <v5b5kt8dgboru3v3l7kv5r76jjaptrbd8k@4ax.com>
On Tue, 03 Jul 2001 23:52:28 +0300, Peter Popov <pet### [at] vipbg> wrote:

>A well-tested and trustworthy combination these days. Your experiments
>prove it.

Thanks, Peter. Do you have any links to such art? I'd love to see how
others are layering.

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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Hydraulics (141 kbu)
Date: 4 Jul 2001 04:44:04
Message: <3B42D7AD.13245422@gmx.de>
Sigmund Kyrre Aas wrote:
> 
> I've started to experiment with combining Rhino renders with pov
> renders. The side thruster one is also processed in Corel Photo-Paint.

It looks good, i will have to try that Corel-Photo-Paint filter too...

> I'm working on a brouchure for a manufacturer of hydraulic equipment,
> and I plan to use these on pages with general info on the different
> product groups. The last one is cropped from the cover. I'm not happy
> with the arrangement.. it's sort of messy yet.

Have you thought about placing the equipment on some base rather than
directly on the water?  I would also try removing reflection or making it
blurred on the painted parts, that would also make them better to
distinguish from the polished metal.

> 
> Water material and clouds are based on Kevin Ellis' "Doorway to
> Enlightenment".

Nice, but i think the water looks not cold enough for a norwegian firm.
:-)

Christoph

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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: Hydraulics (141 kbu)
Date: 4 Jul 2001 06:16:33
Message: <v8e5ktovbjq80n5sp545cevh6akgvcu4hq@4ax.com>
On Wed, 04 Jul 2001 07:45:00 +0200, Sigmund Kyrre Aas
<as### [at] studntnuno> wrote:

>On Tue, 03 Jul 2001 23:52:28 +0300, Peter Popov <pet### [at] vipbg> wrote:
>
>>A well-tested and trustworthy combination these days. Your experiments
>>prove it.
>
>Thanks, Peter. Do you have any links to such art? I'd love to see how
>others are layering.

Other than p.b.i., no. I'll give it a go.


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From: Sigmund Kyrre Aas
Subject: Re: Hydraulics (141 kbu)
Date: 4 Jul 2001 06:59:04
Message: <sht5kto63b9vv6bgt9eq0kqnelcvp39p2p@4ax.com>
On Wed, 04 Jul 2001 13:16:40 +0300, Peter Popov <pet### [at] vipbg> wrote:

>On Wed, 04 Jul 2001 07:45:00 +0200, Sigmund Kyrre Aas
><as### [at] studntnuno> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 03 Jul 2001 23:52:28 +0300, Peter Popov <pet### [at] vipbg> wrote:
>>
>>>A well-tested and trustworthy combination these days. Your experiments
>>>prove it.
>>
>>Thanks, Peter. Do you have any links to such art? I'd love to see how
>>others are layering.
>
>Other than p.b.i., no. I'll give it a go.

er, I think I misunderstood you. I thought you meant layering the
render output from Rhino with the render output from Pov. I've seen
lots of Rhino stuff rendered in Pov, so don't bother digging up links
to me.

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From: Sigmund Kyrre Aas
Subject: Re: Hydraulics (141 kbu)
Date: 4 Jul 2001 07:06:34
Message: <sst5ktonu6m67dvf5d8bkn6pdvqrer7cpm@4ax.com>
On Wed, 04 Jul 2001 10:45:33 +0200, Christoph Hormann
<chr### [at] gmxde> wrote:
>
>Have you thought about placing the equipment on some base rather than
>directly on the water?  I would also try removing reflection or making it

Yeah, I have. I've been thinking about wooden planks or rock.

>blurred on the painted parts, that would also make them better to
>distinguish from the polished metal.

Nothing is painted actually, except the motor for the winch and crane.
I'm not happy with the textures yet. It should be aluminum, rubbed
with a "rondel" as we call it. Pretty tough to texture because of the
irregularities and anisotropic reflectiveness.

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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Hydraulics (141 kbu)
Date: 4 Jul 2001 11:27:17
Message: <3B433628.188FA512@gmx.de>
Sigmund Kyrre Aas wrote:
> 
> Yeah, I have. I've been thinking about wooden planks or rock.
> 

Yes, wood sounds good, maybe try some IsoWood planks...

> 
> Nothing is painted actually, except the motor for the winch and crane.
> I'm not happy with the textures yet. It should be aluminum, rubbed
> with a "rondel" as we call it. Pretty tough to texture because of the
> irregularities and anisotropic reflectiveness.
> 

For aluminum blurred reflection could look good, it looks too polished as
it is now and the strong sharp reflections distract from the actual
shapes.

Christoph

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From: Sigmund Kyrre Aas
Subject: Re: Hydraulics (141 kbu)
Date: 4 Jul 2001 12:50:40
Message: <2sh6ktg921ah9a8eis61daadnlk0p2q36e@4ax.com>
On Wed, 04 Jul 2001 17:28:40 +0200, Christoph Hormann
<chr### [at] gmxde> wrote:

>Yes, wood sounds good, maybe try some IsoWood planks...

IsoWood is nice, but I doubt the detail will be visible.

>For aluminum blurred reflection could look good, it looks too polished as
>it is now and the strong sharp reflections distract from the actual
>shapes.

I'm _very_ anxious to use that as the scene already takes 24 hours at
decent resolution.. I agree on the reflections though. I've been
thinking about making a material_map texture for this purpose.
Attached is a pic of the real thing. Maybe someone has an idea how to
make this with a procedural texture?

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From: Pete
Subject: Re: Hydraulics (141 kbu)
Date: 4 Jul 2001 21:38:35
Message: <161.585T194T7543519PeterC@nym.alias.net>
I like the picture that combines a wireframe view with
a raytraced view.  I wish I knew of a way to get POV-Ray (by
itself) to do that.  Nice pic!

Pete


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From: Sigmund Kyrre Aas
Subject: Re: Hydraulics (141 kbu)
Date: 5 Jul 2001 01:54:01
Message: <j408ktgagnapi2qof2r3bfuskv9t6ep4dt@4ax.com>
On 4 Jul 2001 12:34:3 -0500, Pete <Pet### [at] nymaliasnet> wrote:

>        I like the picture that combines a wireframe view with
>a raytraced view.  I wish I knew of a way to get POV-Ray (by
>itself) to do that.  Nice pic!

Thanks. Both the two first images are combined with wireframe renders.
On the first one, a "scetch" effect has been applied to the wireframe
render.

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