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From: Kyle
Subject: Island In The Evening
Date: 23 Jul 2005 23:35:15
Message: <fi26e19nqb287hiu9l2thgfnvjhbmo2gcn@4ax.com>
Hi all.

This is one of the first images I worked on when learning how to use
macros.  I have never felt it was quite finished.  I keep going back
to it occasionally and tweaking things.  A couple of things I think I
still need to change are the moon color, it's too white, and the land
looks a little too bright.  I'm looking forward to your comments and
suggestions!

Thanks,


Kyle


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From: Kyle
Subject: Re: Island In The Evening
Date: 26 Jul 2005 00:43:29
Message: <eofbe113ek4rg9vanvvmfg6gi4ec0c18jn@4ax.com>
Two days with no comments = I must not be doing minimalism.  ;-)  

Anyone?


Kyle


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From: Anthony D  Baye
Subject: Re: Island In The Evening
Date: 26 Jul 2005 02:27:56
Message: <42e5d7ec$1@news.povray.org>
Kyle wrote:
> Hi all.
> 
> This is one of the first images I worked on when learning how to use
> macros.  I have never felt it was quite finished.  I keep going back
> to it occasionally and tweaking things.  A couple of things I think I
> still need to change are the moon color, it's too white, and the land
> looks a little too bright.  I'm looking forward to your comments and
> suggestions!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Kyle
> 
> 
> 

Kyle,

	I don't really have anything to add, except that you may want to 
roughen the sand texture some.  The water looks very good, but slightly 
gelatinous. Finally, the moon seems just a tad too shiny, but this is 
only my opinion.

Otherwise, excellent image.  Certainly better than my one and only 
venture into the realm of seascapes.

Regards,

A.D.B.


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Island In The Evening
Date: 26 Jul 2005 10:03:41
Message: <42e642bd$1@news.povray.org>
Kyle wrote:
> Two days with no comments = I must not be doing minimalism.  ;-)  
> 
> Anyone?
> 
Hi, I think it is an oddly attractive image but I can't put my finger on 
quite why.  The "atmosphere" is very pleasing, stemming I think from the 
dark silvery tones of the composition overall.  The style and execution 
has a naive, primitive quality rather than high photo-realism, which 
adds a lot of charm. Yet in subliminal ways, the picture feels very 
real. Mentally the viewer can enter it. I think this is much because of 
your pictorial economy of means. For instance, you use the sky and fog 
in a simple way to convey a lot of realism. The palms are a bit stylized 
but you use their bending silhouettes to great effect.  Having said all 
that, I find the moon to be a huge anomaly.

So you see, it is a tricky picture to comment on. I am left unsure as to 
whether I have complimented you or offended you :( because it is not 
clear yet where you are trying to take the picture.  Not your fault, 
just "one of those things," and may in part explain the dirth of comments.

-Jim


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From: Kyle
Subject: Re: Island In The Evening
Date: 26 Jul 2005 23:14:38
Message: <cfude194ilrno2uh96hf7fumkdpv8eqvab@4ax.com>
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 00:27:42 -0600, "Anthony D. Baye"
<Sha### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:

>
>	I don't really have anything to add, except that you may want to 
>roughen the sand texture some.  The water looks very good, but slightly 
>gelatinous. Finally, the moon seems just a tad too shiny, but this is 
>only my opinion.
>

Thanks for your observations.  I haven't revisited the sand texture
lately, but I recall having many issues with it before.  I can't seem
to get it just like I want it.  You're right about the water.  I
hadn't noticed it before, but it does have a gelatinous feel to it.  I
plan to lighten the moon and add a slight touch of yellow.

>Otherwise, excellent image.  

Thanks!


Kyle


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From: Kyle
Subject: Re: Island In The Evening
Date: 26 Jul 2005 23:42:47
Message: <0qvde1hdej7frstsf2po5p77j0chp7tlmc@4ax.com>
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:03:30 -0400, Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom>
wrote:

>Hi, I think it is an oddly attractive image but I can't put my finger on 
>quite why.  The "atmosphere" is very pleasing, stemming I think from the 
>dark silvery tones of the composition overall.  The style and execution 
>has a naive, primitive quality rather than high photo-realism, which 
>adds a lot of charm. Yet in subliminal ways, the picture feels very 
>real. Mentally the viewer can enter it. I think this is much because of 
>your pictorial economy of means. For instance, you use the sky and fog 
>in a simple way to convey a lot of realism. The palms are a bit stylized 
>but you use their bending silhouettes to great effect.  Having said all 
>that, I find the moon to be a huge anomaly.
>
>So you see, it is a tricky picture to comment on. I am left unsure as to 
>whether I have complimented you or offended you :( because it is not 
>clear yet where you are trying to take the picture.  Not your fault, 
>just "one of those things," and may in part explain the dirth of comments.
>
>-Jim

Thank you for your well-articulated observations.  This image came
about as I was learning different aspects of the POV-Ray scene
language, as follows:

Palm trees - various dynamic macros and meshes
Water, isosurface and material with interior
Land - isosurface with a texture that varies with its height (the land
is darker under the water)
Fog - well, fog
Moon - light groups, layered textures

So basically, I have never really had a particular direction that I
was going with this image.  It has always been kind of a playground
that I revisit from time-to-time and has just developed to this stage
by happenstance, including the very distracting moon.

I think I am going to work towards making the scene more
photorealistic.  It'll be a continuing challenge and should help me
learn more about lighting, textures, etc.

You have complimented me by taking the time to write your review.

Thank you,


Kyle


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From: Sebastian H 
Subject: Re: Island In The Evening
Date: 27 Jul 2005 02:40:22
Message: <42e72c56$1@news.povray.org>
Kyle wrote:
> Hi all.
> 
> This is one of the first images I worked on when learning how to use
> macros.  I have never felt it was quite finished.  I keep going back
> to it occasionally and tweaking things.  A couple of things I think I
> still need to change are the moon color, it's too white, and the land
> looks a little too bright.  I'm looking forward to your comments and
> suggestions!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Kyle
> 
> 
> 

I like it very much.
But here is an idea.
Speaking of atmosphere, there is this nebular over the water
which can scatter the moonlight. Maybe a halo around the moon
caused by this scattering could look nice (media).

Sebastian


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From: Paolo Gibellini
Subject: Re: Island In The Evening
Date: 1 Aug 2005 12:29:30
Message: <42ee4dea@news.povray.org>
> This is one of the first images I worked on when learning how to use
> macros.  I have never felt it was quite finished.  I keep going back
> to it occasionally and tweaking things.  A couple of things I think I
> still need to change are the moon color, it's too white, and the land
> looks a little too bright.  I'm looking forward to your comments and
> suggestions!

I find it a very relaxing scene.
Perhaps is too pronounced the intersection between water and sand.
Could be more interesting with some stars.
Have a nice day,
;-)
Paolo


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