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From: Chris Huff
Subject: Re: Royal Coachman(trout fly) - Coachman.jpg (1/1)
Date: 5 Jan 2000 09:05:45
Message: <chrishuff_99-46F62B.09055105012000@news.povray.org>
In article <ba867scmuj43f2rp2g1arist8cd1nohb0c@4ax.com>, Alan Kong 
<ako### [at] povrayNO-SPAMorg> wrote:

>   Chris, when we were back in GO POVRAY did you ever see Dan Farmer's
> image of what I recall was a mayfly nymph sitting on the bottom of a
> rocky stream?

Hmm, I do remember downloading a nymph of some kind done in POV-Ray. But 
I think it was a stonefly nymph, and wasn't on the bottom of a stream. 
Maybe it was a mayfly, and it was a scene to demonstrate the nymph model.

I remember another trout fly picture, I think it showed a dry fly 
floating on water. I don't remember what fly, though...

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Chris Huff
e-mail: chr### [at] yahoocom
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From: Marc Schimmler
Subject: Re: Royal Coachman(trout fly) - Coachman.jpg (1/1)
Date: 5 Jan 2000 09:08:20
Message: <38735054.AE0598A8@ica.uni-stuttgart.de>
Marc Schimmler wrote:
> 
> Looks fine! My dad also makes his own flies. Is this one a dry one? I
> guess so. I have to send it to him.
> I especially like the hok and the it's texture.
> 
> Marc
> 
> --
> Marc Schimmler

I had a short exchange with my dad and he said that the royal coachman
has white wings ... ?
He prefers it because it lands in a softer way and can be seen better on
the water.
Anyway he said your pic is very good!

Marc

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From: Chris Huff
Subject: Re: Royal Coachman(trout fly) - Coachman.jpg (1/1)
Date: 5 Jan 2000 09:21:53
Message: <chrishuff_99-39B9DA.09220005012000@news.povray.org>
In article <38735054.AE0598A8@ica.uni-stuttgart.de>, Marc Schimmler 
<sch### [at] icauni-stuttgartde> wrote:

> I had a short exchange with my dad and he said that the royal coachman
> has white wings ... ?

From my original post:
"The model isn't quite complete, it doesn't have any wings."
:-)
The Royal Coachman has white "quill wings", made from intact sections of 
fibers from duck wing feathers. These can be difficult to cast if not 
balanced well, and tend to get shredded after a couple fish.
The Royal Wulff has white calf tail wings, this material is short and 
crinkly, which makes big white plumes for the wings. It is much more 
durable than the quill wings, many people use the Royal Wulff and call 
it the Royal Coachman.
Since I am not really sure how to do quill wings(maybe bezier patches?), 
I will probably do the hair wings.


> He prefers it because it lands in a softer way and can be seen better on
> the water.

Yeah, the big white wings make the Royal Coachman good for low 
visibility conditions, the hair wings on the Royal Wulff are even 
better, and they last a lot longer.

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Chris Huff
e-mail: chr### [at] yahoocom
Web page: http://chrishuff.dhs.org/


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From: Sigmund Kyrre Aas
Subject: Re: Royal Coachman(trout fly) - Coachman.jpg (1/1)
Date: 5 Jan 2000 10:02:25
Message: <38735CFE.F085CEAE@stud.ntnu.no>
Well, this is nice. I did think about asking you if you ever had
modelled a fly in pov, but that thread was sort of diverging from it's
topic. Now, I notice it's a really thin thread attached to the ring.
Didn't look all that solid to me, but perhaps you got some kevlar in
there? 8)

btw do you go a lot out fishing? Judging from your contributions here,
you spend a lot of time coding.. ;-)
<ouch> off topic again..

sig.


Chris Huff wrote:
> 
> After the talking about fly tying, I decided to make some flies in POV.
> This type is called the Royal Coachman. It is a trout fly, but can be
> used for just about anything. The model isn't quite complete, it doesn't
> have any wings. Also, on most of the ones I tie, the red band is
> narrower, and a lot flatter(less "bulge" to it). Sometimes fine gold
> colored wire is wrapped around the red band.
> 
> The red band is floss, and the humps on each side are peacock strands.
> The tail is made of fibers from golden pheasant neck feathers.
> There is a fly called the Royal Wulff, which has white hair wings
> instead of feater wings but is otherwise identical. I may do that
> instead.
> 
> This is all hand coded.
> 
> --
> Chris Huff
> e-mail: chr### [at] yahoocom
> Web page: http://chrishuff.dhs.org/
> 
>  [Image]


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From: Chris Huff
Subject: Re: Royal Coachman(trout fly) - Coachman.jpg (1/1)
Date: 5 Jan 2000 10:20:43
Message: <chrishuff_99-77F574.10205005012000@news.povray.org>
In article <38735CFE.F085CEAE@stud.ntnu.no>, Sigmund Kyrre Aas 
<as### [at] studntnuno> wrote:

> Well, this is nice. I did think about asking you if you ever had
> modelled a fly in pov, but that thread was sort of diverging from it's
> topic. Now, I notice it's a really thin thread attached to the ring.
> Didn't look all that solid to me, but perhaps you got some kevlar in
> there? 8)

There isn't anything attached to the ring.(except the hook, which is the 
same diameter wire)


> btw do you go a lot out fishing? Judging from your contributions here,
> you spend a lot of time coding.. ;-)
> <ouch> off topic again..

Well, sometimes we go on a family trip up to Pere Marquette or Little 
Manistee, but I do most of my fishing around here. There are a lot of 
lakes in this area and we have two ponds full of fish. But this summer I 
didn't really have much time to fish, and things are frozen up now.

-- 
Chris Huff
e-mail: chr### [at] yahoocom
Web page: http://chrishuff.dhs.org/


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From: Mike
Subject: Re: Royal Coachman(trout fly) - Coachman.jpg (1/1)
Date: 5 Jan 2000 11:10:24
Message: <387369F1.109F6304@aol.com>
I must have missed the fly thread.  My biggest passion used to be fly
fishing.  I used to go almost everyday when I was living in New York.  There
were so many rivers, big and small, and I would just follow them until I
found a good spot.  Sometimes I would tie a fly on the riverbank to match
what they were going for.  Sigh...I miss that.  I still fish sometimes out
here in IL, but it's only for crappy (closest thing to a trout we got out
here).  Sure, there's some steelhead that come up some of the rivers from
lake michigan, but they are way too big for my taste, and they don't eat so
it's not much fun trying to get them to bite.  The rivers are pretty murky
too.

Your flies look really nice.  You did a good job with the peacock herl -
that's where I had problems when I made a Royal Wulff.  Nice randomness to
the tail and hackles too.  Can't really see any flaws other than the missing
wings, though if you cut a little V in the bottom of the hackles they might
float a little better. :)

Here's two images I did a long time ago of a Royal Wulff .  Not quite as
good as yours but I was proud of them at the time.


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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: Royal Coachman(trout fly) - Coachman.jpg (1/1)
Date: 5 Jan 2000 15:27:45
Message: <6KhzOLjZG5es4lsq=LMMsoQ8QcMw@4ax.com>
On Wed, 05 Jan 2000 02:50:00 -0800, Alan Kong
<ako### [at] povrayNO-SPAMorg> wrote:

>  Chris, when we were back in GO POVRAY did you ever see Dan Farmer's
>image of what I recall was a mayfly nymph sitting on the bottom of a
>rocky stream?

Several of these images are on the official 2.2 CDROM, afair. I recall
that the handle of the rod had a metallic cap with the initials "DMF"
engraved in gothic letters. Those were some of the images I showed to
the principal when I was trying to convince him to buy the official
CDROM for use in school.


Peter Popov
pet### [at] usanet
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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Royal Coachman(trout fly) - Coachman.jpg (1/1)
Date: 5 Jan 2000 15:33:56
Message: <3873A950.80EA92B7@pacbell.net>
Peter Popov wrote:

> Several of these images are on the official 2.2 CDROM, afair. I recall
> that the handle of the rod had a metallic cap with the initials "DMF"
> engraved in gothic letters. Those were some of the images I showed to
> the principal when I was trying to convince him to buy the official
> CDROM for use in school.

see - http://www.websharx.com:80/~dfarmer/gallry1.htm

-- 
Ken Tyler -  1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Royal Coachman(trout fly) - Coachman.jpg (1/1)
Date: 7 Jan 2000 18:42:32
Message: <slrn87ada0.632.sjlen@zero-pps.localdomain>
Chris

This is amazing, all it needs now is a dark river or river bank, and a torch 
illuminating the fly and some line.

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From: Chris Huff
Subject: Re: Royal Coachman(trout fly) - Coachman.jpg (1/1)
Date: 7 Jan 2000 18:56:33
Message: <chrishuff_99-417C92.18564307012000@news.povray.org>
In article <slr### [at] zero-ppslocaldomain>, 
sjl### [at] ndirectcouk wrote:

> This is amazing, all it needs now is a dark river or river bank, and a 
> torch illuminating the fly and some line.

A torch? Oh, you mean a flashlight? ;-)

Anyone have some favorite flies they would like to see? I am working on 
a box for them right now.
I think a riverside scene is beyond my capabilities, I am going to try 
to construct a fly tying desk.

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Chris Huff
e-mail: chr### [at] yahoocom
Web page: http://chrishuff.dhs.org/


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