On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:34:58 +0000, David Wilkinson
<dav### [at] cwcomnet> wrote:

>The concept is great. The eyes and tusks need thinking about as do the walls and
floor.
>Make the ears much bigger (and probably the tusks as well.)
>Look forward to seeing developments.

Can you be a bit more specific about the eyes and tusks? The model is
the most accurate representation of a real glass elephant I have,
though I must admit texturing is just a hack at reality.

The walls suck, I know. I have given up using an isosurface and am
stuck with normals unless some good soul can help me with the iso
stuff. The floor... well, it was supposed to look like a wooded table
:) but judging by everyone's comments I have to remake it.

Thanks for your feedback.


Peter Popov
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:48:34 +0200, Peter Popov <pet### [at] usanet> wrote:

>Can you be a bit more specific about the eyes and tusks? The model is
>the most accurate representation of a real glass elephant I have,
>though I must admit texturing is just a hack at reality.
>
If you want the model to represent the reality of your glass elelphant, then of course
my
observations are invalid.

Not knowing, however, that you were modelling from 'life' I felt that the eyes would
be
better a different colour, with the the tusks longer and a different colour (ivory?)
BTW is the fiery exhalation also from life? :-)

I thought your idea and modelling of a glass elephant was very appealing. The fire
squirting out of the trunk gives it a surreal appeal and converts it into some sort of
mythical beast, that might be even better with exaggerated appendages.

Hmm ... although coming from a different perspective, Ganesh, the hindu god which is
half
man, half elephant might be interesting to model :-)
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Lame glass animal? I've seen real glass elephant ornaments that look
almost exactly like this one...

Peter Warren wrote:

> I don't think you needed Rhino to model such a
> *lame* glass animal, however.

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On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:44:35 +0000, David Wilkinson
<dav### [at] cwcomnet> wrote:

>If you want the model to represent the reality of your glass elelphant, then of
course my
>observations are invalid.

Your observations are valid because they are based on what you saw :)

>Not knowing, however, that you were modelling from 'life' I felt that the eyes would
be
>better a different colour, with the the tusks longer and a different colour (ivory?)

Actually the tusks were very ivory-looking in the pre-test renders but
I was using a single shadowless light source. Now the light is orange
(in average). Hmm... I might change that. You're right though, the
tusks don't look like ivory at all. The eyes are in fact blue but of
course this can't be seen with this type of illumination.

>BTW is the fiery exhalation also from life? :-)

Nope :) There's a story behind all this but I'll post it with the
final render.

>I thought your idea and modelling of a glass elephant was very appealing. The fire
>squirting out of the trunk gives it a surreal appeal and converts it into some sort
of
>mythical beast, that might be even better with exaggerated appendages.
>
>Hmm ... although coming from a different perspective, Ganesh, the hindu god which is
half
>man, half elephant might be interesting to model :-)

Sheevah is even more challenging to model :)

I'll try to model a Pegasus when I am through with this project. Now
*that* is challenging (detail level will be an issue for that
project).

Thank you again for your feedback.


Peter Popov
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Scott Reid wrote:
> Lame glass animal? I've seen real glass elephant ornaments that look
> almost exactly like this one...
>
> Peter Warren wrote:
>
> > I don't think you needed Rhino to model such a
> > *lame* glass animal, however.

Same here, I think the there is a lot more detail to the model than's shown
from this render (the refraction of the glass masks the real detail).

I like it, and it's cute :)

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Peter Popov <pet### [at] usanet> wrote in message
news:FTKzOC7PJu4Ufi6aOgAJMuyz0fvg@4ax.com...
> Here's an in-progress render of a scene I'm working on. There's still
> a lot to be done but I felt like sharing it anyway. Please let me know
> what you think.
>

I like!

With regard to the floor/table confusion, you might be able to avoid this if
the table corner wasn't so close to where a floor corner would be in
relation to the wall corner. At the moment the eye is tricked into seeing
the table and wall as contigenous.

With regard to the model, the transition between the legs and the body looks
a little abrupt, but this might be a feature of the real model.

Please post the china (or whatever) version.

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Peter Popov wrote:
> 
> Here's an in-progress render of a scene I'm working on. There's still
> a lot to be done but I felt like sharing it anyway. Please let me know
> what you think.
> 
> The elephant was modelled in the Rhino eval. The flame is a highly
> modified Howard Day one. The walls have a weird normal and that's
> about all there's to this image.
> 
	Very nice, I like it a lot

> Right now the walls are a rounded box with a normal. I'd greatly
> appreciate it if someone could help me make an isosurface version of
> that.
> 
	Try something like that:
#declare Normal = function { pigment { granite } }
#declare Depth = 1 ;
isosurface {
  function { (Normal-0.5)*Depth-x }
  bounded_by { box { -<Depth, 1, 100>, <Depth, 10, 100> } }
}

	For a piece of wall with the outside normal in the x
direction

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Scott Reid wrote:
> 
> Lame glass animal? I've seen real glass elephant ornaments that look
> almost exactly like this one...

  What really fascinates me is the internal glow of the glass.  I
actually do glassblowing and hot glass sculpting, and the colors are
*exactly* as if the object was currently being worked.  Very, very nice.

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In article <38B569B4.C1695ADA@iname.com>, Jerome <ber### [at] inamecom> 
wrote:

> 	Try something like that:
> #declare Normal = function { pigment { granite } }
> #declare Depth = 1 ;
> isosurface {
>   function { (Normal-0.5)*Depth-x }
>   bounded_by { box { -<Depth, 1, 100>, <Depth, 10, 100> } }
> }

And note that in the most recent MegaPOV the "contained_by" keyword 
replaces the original function of "bounded_by", so "bounded_by" now 
should behave the same as in other objects. The "open" keyword is used 
to get the same effect as you get with "clipped_by".

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On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:50:40 -0500, Cyrrin <jef### [at] umichedu> wrote:

>  What really fascinates me is the internal glow of the glass.  I
>actually do glassblowing and hot glass sculpting, and the colors are
>*exactly* as if the object was currently being worked.  Very, very nice.

Hey, thanks, I wasn't aiming for this effect but it contributes to the
idea I have about the image.


Peter Popov
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