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From: James Holsenback
Subject: Re: Glass Jar
Date: 24 Jul 2013 11:03:33
Message: <51efecc5@news.povray.org>
On 07/22/2013 05:55 PM, Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:

>> what I think I should really do is fill a
>> container with the beans and tip it over.
>
>    IIRC, for the pills pot image
> (http://www.ignorancia.org/uploads/images/take-your-meds/wips/prescription-05.jpg)
> my solution was to let the pills fall just in front of the pot, which
> was already tipped over and empty: a few pills entered into the pot, so
> it ended looking as if it was tipped over while filled with pills.
>
> --
> Jaime
>
>
Good idea ... I like this distribution much better! I'm not sure what 
happened to the sslt on a couple of the candies. Maybe I should not have 
done a separate photon run, then picked up he sslt later.


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Glass Jar
Date: 24 Jul 2013 20:14:50
Message: <51f06dfa$1@news.povray.org>

> On 07/22/2013 05:55 PM, Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:

>>> what I think I should really do is fill a
>>> container with the beans and tip it over.
>>
>>    IIRC, for the pills pot image
>> (http://www.ignorancia.org/uploads/images/take-your-meds/wips/prescription-05.jpg)
>>
>> my solution was to let the pills fall just in front of the pot, which
>> was already tipped over and empty: a few pills entered into the pot, so
>> it ended looking as if it was tipped over while filled with pills.
>>
>> --
>> Jaime
>>
>>
> Good idea ... I like this distribution much better! I'm not sure what
> happened to the sslt on a couple of the candies. Maybe I should not have
> done a separate photon run, then picked up he sslt later.

Nice.

To enhence the impression that the jar was toppled over, I'd place the 
lid upside down and relocate it in front of the jar's oppening.

It still look as if the grout is casting shadows on the tiles. Have you 
tried negating your bormals or bump papping?




Alain


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From: James Holsenback
Subject: Re: Glass Jar
Date: 24 Jul 2013 20:28:11
Message: <51f0711b$1@news.povray.org>
On 07/24/2013 08:15 PM, Alain wrote:

>> On 07/22/2013 05:55 PM, Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:

>>>> what I think I should really do is fill a
>>>> container with the beans and tip it over.
>>>
>>>    IIRC, for the pills pot image
>>> (http://www.ignorancia.org/uploads/images/take-your-meds/wips/prescription-05.jpg)
>>>
>>>
>>> my solution was to let the pills fall just in front of the pot, which
>>> was already tipped over and empty: a few pills entered into the pot, so
>>> it ended looking as if it was tipped over while filled with pills.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jaime
>>>
>>>
>> Good idea ... I like this distribution much better! I'm not sure what
>> happened to the sslt on a couple of the candies. Maybe I should not have
>> done a separate photon run, then picked up he sslt later.
>
> Nice.
>
> To enhence the impression that the jar was toppled over, I'd place the
> lid upside down and relocate it in front of the jar's oppening.

Yep ... I was considering that, but have resisted since I like the 
detail on the top of the lid. Maybe photons will show some of that on 
the ground plane ... OK you convinced me!

>
> It still look as if the grout is casting shadows on the tiles. Have you
> tried negating your bormals or bump papping?

OK /now/ I get what you were talking about. I think it's a color_map 
issue. I /was/ trying to do some transition shading. I'll have to double 
my settings.


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From: James Holsenback
Subject: Re: Glass Jar
Date: 26 Jul 2013 07:13:05
Message: <51f259c1@news.povray.org>
On 07/24/2013 08:15 PM, Alain wrote:
> To enhence the impression that the jar was toppled over, I'd place the
> lid upside down and relocate it in front of the jar's oppening.

Thanks for the ideas etc ... I think I'm getting close


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Glass Jar
Date: 26 Jul 2013 07:24:48
Message: <51f25c80$1@news.povray.org>
On 26-7-2013 13:12, James Holsenback wrote:
> Thanks for the ideas etc ... I think I'm getting close
>

Absolutely.

Thomas


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Glass Jar
Date: 28 Jul 2013 17:10:33
Message: <51f588c9$1@news.povray.org>

> On 07/24/2013 08:15 PM, Alain wrote:
>> To enhence the impression that the jar was toppled over, I'd place the
>> lid upside down and relocate it in front of the jar's oppening.
>
> Thanks for the ideas etc ... I think I'm getting close
>

I totaly agree :)
Now, add a few translucent jelly beans mixed with those mints...



Alain


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From: James Holsenback
Subject: Re: Glass Jar
Date: 2 Aug 2013 16:37:40
Message: <51fc1894@news.povray.org>
On 07/01/2013 02:33 PM, James Holsenback wrote:
> <snip> and thought the image was cool enough to
> share. It's a work in progress so I'm not entirely sure where it will
> end up.

Well I'm calling this one final (except for the image size) ... photons, 
area_light and subsurface (jelly beans) took 27hr 40min 45 sec. I was 
using the system off and on so probably not a fair benchmark.

Thanks y'all for the feedback, I'm happy how it turned out!


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Glass Jar
Date: 2 Aug 2013 17:32:23
Message: <51fc2567$1@news.povray.org>
On 02/08/2013 9:36 PM, James Holsenback wrote:
> Well I'm calling this one final (except for the image size) ... photons,
> area_light and subsurface (jelly beans) took 27hr 40min 45 sec. I was
> using the system off and on so probably not a fair benchmark.
>
> Thanks y'all for the feedback, I'm happy how it turned out!

That is very, very good. But could you do something about the jelly 
beans all being perfectly balanced, in  the same plane?

-- 
Regards
     Stephen


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From: James Holsenback
Subject: Re: Glass Jar
Date: 3 Aug 2013 07:15:40
Message: <51fce65c$1@news.povray.org>
On 08/02/2013 05:32 PM, Stephen wrote:
> On 02/08/2013 9:36 PM, James Holsenback wrote:
>> Well I'm calling this one final (except for the image size) ... photons,
>> area_light and subsurface (jelly beans) took 27hr 40min 45 sec. I was
>> using the system off and on so probably not a fair benchmark.
>>
>> Thanks y'all for the feedback, I'm happy how it turned out!
>
> That is very, very good. But could you do something about the jelly
> beans all being perfectly balanced, in  the same plane?
>

I dropped them vertical (points up and down) and that's how they settled 
... they even oscillated back and forth before they settling. I had to 
play around with mass and friction settings to keep them from scattering 
all over the place. I suppose I could change the mass of /some/ of them 
and maybe get a few to pile on top of the others, but I'm not sure the 
shape (basically round) would behave that way naturally.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Glass Jar
Date: 3 Aug 2013 07:41:06
Message: <51fcec52$1@news.povray.org>
On 03/08/2013 12:15 PM, James Holsenback wrote:
> I dropped them vertical (points up and down) and that's how they settled
> ... they even oscillated back and forth before they settling. I had to
> play around with mass and friction settings to keep them from scattering
> all over the place. I suppose I could change the mass of /some/ of them
> and maybe get a few to pile on top of the others, but I'm not sure the
> shape (basically round) would behave that way naturally.

I've not tried bullet-physics-playground, yet. It is definitely on my to 
do list. I agree about the shape, can you offset the centre of gravity, 
inside the bean?

-- 
Regards
     Stephen


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