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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Paris by night - final 1
Date: 8 Apr 2011 14:40:08
Message: <4d9f5688$1@news.povray.org>
On 04/08/2011 03:00 PM, Stephen wrote:
> On 08/04/2011 3:41 PM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> This is the final render of my scene, or almost as area_lights are
>> switched
>> off here, and a slight focal blur is needed to render correctly the
>> catenaries in the background. Everything else however is finished.
>>
>
> And it looks good too.
>
>> The Final final render will take time however as it is extremely slow
>> (media+focal blur+area lights).
>>
>
> I don't understand that. It only took me two minutes to render it and I
> had to enlarge and develop it. :-P
>
>
LOL ... helps to have your own dark room ;-)


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Paris by night - final 1
Date: 8 Apr 2011 14:42:21
Message: <4d9f570d@news.povray.org>
On 04/08/2011 11:41 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> This is the final render of my scene, or almost as area_lights are switched
> off here, and a slight focal blur is needed to render correctly the
> catenaries in the background. Everything else however is finished.
>
> The Final final render will take time however as it is extremely slow
> (media+focal blur+area lights).
>
> Thomas
>
>
lot's of detail for the viewer to explore ... nice job!


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Paris by night - final 1
Date: 8 Apr 2011 15:15:57
Message: <4d9f5eed@news.povray.org>

> This is the final render of my scene, or almost as area_lights are switched
> off here, and a slight focal blur is needed to render correctly the
> catenaries in the background. Everything else however is finished.
>
> The Final final render will take time however as it is extremely slow
> (media+focal blur+area lights).
>
> Thomas
>
>

Great.
The photo was taken in the 50's, this is about half a century earlier, 
maybe some more... ;)



  Don't forget to use adaptive for those area_light.


Alain


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Paris by night - final 1
Date: 8 Apr 2011 17:26:12
Message: <4d9f7d74$1@news.povray.org>
On 08/04/2011 7:40 PM, Jim Holsenback wrote:
>> I don't understand that. It only took me two minutes to render it and I
>> had to enlarge and develop it. :-P
>>
>>
> LOL ... helps to have your own dark room ;-)

Thank you Pov-Ray :-)

-- 
Regards
     Stephen


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From: Samuel Benge
Subject: Re: Paris by night - final 1
Date: 9 Apr 2011 18:55:01
Message: <web.4da0e2c0e2c3abffb88b47e40@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote:
> This is the final render of my scene, or almost as area_lights are switched
> off here, and a slight focal blur is needed to render correctly the
> catenaries in the background. Everything else however is finished.

Looking great so far, Thomas!

Will you be using area_illuminating area_lights for this?

You won't be using radiosity, though? Low-res, fading area_lights at each source
for bounced light wouldn't hurt, though it will most definitely make the render
times higher...

> The Final final render will take time however as it is extremely slow
> (media+focal blur+area lights).

You probably already know this, but when area_lights and focal blur are
combined, you can reduce the area_light samples if jittering is enabled...

The final render is going to look awesome :)

~Sam


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Paris by night - final 1
Date: 11 Apr 2011 03:38:10
Message: <4da2afe2$1@news.povray.org>
"Samuel Benge" <stb### [at] hotmailcom> schreef in bericht 
news:web.4da0e2c0e2c3abffb88b47e40@news.povray.org...
> Looking great so far, Thomas!

Thank you, Sam!

>
> Will you be using area_illuminating area_lights for this?

Well, I am not sure about this new feature and have not yet experimented 
with it...

>
> You won't be using radiosity, though? Low-res, fading area_lights at each 
> source
> for bounced light wouldn't hurt, though it will most definitely make the 
> render
> times higher...

Radiosity is on here, though. It is really needed for overall illumination 
of the dark parts by a screen behind the camera.

>
> You probably already know this, but when area_lights and focal blur are
> combined, you can reduce the area_light samples if jittering is enabled...

Yes, I have been testing several sample values to get the lowest possible.

>
> The final render is going to look awesome :)

I hope so :-)

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Paris by night - final 1
Date: 11 Apr 2011 03:39:44
Message: <4da2b040$1@news.povray.org>
"Alain" <aze### [at] qwertyorg> schreef in bericht 
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>
> Great.
> The photo was taken in the 50's, this is about half a century earlier, 
> maybe some more... ;)



He he :-)

>
>  Don't forget to use adaptive for those area_light.

I always do.

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Paris by night - final 1
Date: 11 Apr 2011 03:40:40
Message: <4da2b078@news.povray.org>
"Stephen" <mcavoys_at@aoldotcom> schreef in bericht 
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> I don't understand that. It only took me two minutes to render it and I 
> had to enlarge and develop it. :-P

I have to do it the hard way. I have no dark room like you  ;-)

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Paris by night - final 1
Date: 11 Apr 2011 03:46:35
Message: <4da2b1db$1@news.povray.org>
"TawnyOwl" <taw### [at] webde> schreef in bericht 
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> A great image and I am really looking forward to see the rest of the
> competition. I only wonder about the "halos" around the lights, are the 
> bulbs
> outside their screening or inside? If outside it is o.k., but inside they 
> must
> have an aspect more like a cone and not radiating in all directions like 
> the
> spheres you did.

Thanks.  Lights are inside. I tried to modulate the halo in my eralier 
version of the scene but I did not really like that. Anyway, the original 
shows (almost) circular halos. This is something I shall have to experiment 
with more, but for the time being I am a bit tired of this scene (almost 
three month work) and want to move on.

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Paris by night - final 1
Date: 11 Apr 2011 03:46:36
Message: <4da2b1dc@news.povray.org>
"Robert McGregor" <rob### [at] mcgregorfineartcom> schreef in bericht 
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>
> This looks great Thomas, really nice attention to detail. I'm looking 
> forward to
> the final TC-RTC render. I see Dr. No has been very busy again this round, 
> good
> luck!

Thanks Robert.

Like always, DrNo is very prolific :-)

Thomas


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