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From: Alain
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 30 Jan 2009 19:43:41
Message: <49839ebd$1@news.povray.org>
alphaQuad nous illumina en ce 2009-01-30 17:31 -->
> stbenge <^@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> alphaQuad wrote:
>>> Luminous Bloom point pattern, I just had to look.
>> Yep, I had to fill the disc evenly :)
>>
>>> Still wondering what you're running in your veins to make you such a genius.
>>>
>>> Find a source for Ampakines yet?
>>>
>>> http://www.nootropics.com/refs/
>> I was never looking for that. I don't think it's such a great idea to be
>> messing with glutamate activity directly. Glutamic acid agonists *and*
>> antagonists both pose different problems. Both can lead to cell death.
>> Granted, there are many types of glutamate receptors, and many drugs
>> affecting them which are benign. But look here. It's a crumb leading to
>> potentially damning information regarding ampakines:
>>
>>
http://www.glgroup.com/News/CX717--Cortex-Pharmaceuticals-Ampakine-Drug-for-ADHD-Struck-Down-by-FDA-17844.html
> 
> How many times do hear the FDA lie to me before I stop believing.?????
> 
> Analysis: Ampakines potentiate neurotransmission at AMPA-type glutamate
> receptors, enhance arousal and attention, and have shown potential
> neuroprotective effects. The FDA’s denial, based on animal toxicity studies,
> suggests to me that there may be evidence that CX717 had some neurotoxic
> effects. Overexcitation of AMPA-type glutamate receptors have been shown to
> cause cell death.
> 
> I need the results from a second unbiased observer before I can believe things
> the FDA says.
> 
Many times, the do those animal tests using HUGE amounts of a given substance. 
They give about 1 gram a day to mice. Given that a mice weight at 20 to 30 
grams, For a 200 pounds man, it's akind of taking 10 pounds of the stuff per 
day, for several years... Then, they detect a 1 to 5% increase in cancers in the 
mice. They thus brand it as carcinogen and bann it.

The product is intended to be used as food coloring, and, in the worst case, 
nobody could take more than 0.1 gram a day, and probably not every day.
How about eating 10 pounds of the yellow-5 food colourant in a day?

Or, the product is NOT to be taken internaly at all, but they still feed mice 
with it. How about eating 10 pounds of hand soap or body lotion in a day?

-- 
Alain
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Islam: If shit happens, blame Israel.


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 30 Jan 2009 23:30:01
Message: <web.4983d3887624d145fd0f18610@news.povray.org>
Alain <ele### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
> alphaQuad nous illumina en ce 2009-01-30 17:31 -->
> > stbenge <^@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> alphaQuad wrote:
> >>> Luminous Bloom point pattern, I just had to look.
> >> Yep, I had to fill the disc evenly :)
> >>
> >>> Still wondering what you're running in your veins to make you such a genius.
> >>>
> >>> Find a source for Ampakines yet?
> >>>
> >>> http://www.nootropics.com/refs/
> >> I was never looking for that. I don't think it's such a great idea to be
> >> messing with glutamate activity directly. Glutamic acid agonists *and*
> >> antagonists both pose different problems. Both can lead to cell death.
> >> Granted, there are many types of glutamate receptors, and many drugs
> >> affecting them which are benign. But look here. It's a crumb leading to
> >> potentially damning information regarding ampakines:
> >>
> >>
http://www.glgroup.com/News/CX717--Cortex-Pharmaceuticals-Ampakine-Drug-for-ADHD-Struck-Down-by-FDA-17844.html
> >
> > How many times do hear the FDA lie to me before I stop believing.?????
> >
> > Analysis: Ampakines potentiate neurotransmission at AMPA-type glutamate
> > receptors, enhance arousal and attention, and have shown potential
> > neuroprotective effects. The FDA’s denial, based on animal toxicity studies,
> > suggests to me that there may be evidence that CX717 had some neurotoxic
> > effects. Overexcitation of AMPA-type glutamate receptors have been shown to
> > cause cell death.
> >
> > I need the results from a second unbiased observer before I can believe things
> > the FDA says.
> >
> Many times, the do those animal tests using HUGE amounts of a given substance.
> They give about 1 gram a day to mice. Given that a mice weight at 20 to 30
> grams, For a 200 pounds man, it's akind of taking 10 pounds of the stuff per
> day, for several years... Then, they detect a 1 to 5% increase in cancers in the
> mice. They thus brand it as carcinogen and bann it.
>
> The product is intended to be used as food coloring, and, in the worst case,
> nobody could take more than 0.1 gram a day, and probably not every day.
> How about eating 10 pounds of the yellow-5 food colourant in a day?
>
> Or, the product is NOT to be taken internaly at all, but they still feed mice
> with it. How about eating 10 pounds of hand soap or body lotion in a day?
>
> --
> Alain
> -------------------------------------------------
> Islam: If shit happens, blame Israel.


Alain, you are awesome. I think I've mentioned the delightful sound of your
handle. It is a pleasure to hear from you. Your remarks show you are one of the
intelligent ones.

But I will not take crap off of Kyle or anyone, sorry you all had to see that,
unless you enjoy someone getting their just deserts. And I am not talking about
me. What must be done in a case like this is often offensive to me, but I have a
stronger penchant to tell the truth about what I see in such disrespectful
people as Kyle.

Again, all apologies for reality (a reality I cannot apologize for) and all my
appreciation to the mentally gifted, gifted enough to see the horrifying
reality of the creepy, greedy, dominating, heartless, profiteering FDA DEA etc.
A truth some fools on this board want to silence.

Wish I could say more, there is so much I would say, Dear Alain


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 31 Jan 2009 03:11:52
Message: <498407c8$1@news.povray.org>
"clipka" <nomail@nomail> schreef in bericht 
news:web.497f80d67624d145971e62b30@news.povray.org...
>
> Well, I guess it's more an algorithm for distributing objects randomly on 
> an
> infinite plain... :P
>

Especially blob objects I understand...

Thomas


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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 31 Jan 2009 21:15:54
Message: <498505da@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot wrote:
> I am coming in late to comment, but RL you know... :-(
> This is an excellent example of what can be done with your proximity macro. 
> I nerver thought about this possibility, and it opens a couple of 
> interesting windows. I shall have to jump deeper; I just have skimmed the 
> surface obviously...

Thanks for the reply. I was gone for a day, so I missed it. Yeah, 
there's a bunch of things you can use proximity functions for besides 
texturing. More possibilities than I know...

> Sam, you should hire a *code editor* it seems  :-)

Sure, I can pay that person with virtual dollars ;)


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 11 Feb 2009 10:14:32
Message: <4992eb58$1@news.povray.org>
alphaQuad escreveu:
> Alain <ele### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
>> Many times, the do those animal tests using HUGE amounts of a given substance.
>> They give about 1 gram a day to mice. Given that a mice weight at 20 to 30
>> grams, For a 200 pounds man, it's akind of taking 10 pounds of the stuff per
>> day, for several years... Then, they detect a 1 to 5% increase in cancers in the
>> mice. They thus brand it as carcinogen and bann it.

Poor mice.

> Again, all apologies for reality (a reality I cannot apologize for) and all my
> appreciation to the mentally gifted, gifted enough to see the horrifying
> reality of the creepy, greedy, dominating, heartless, profiteering FDA DEA etc.
> A truth some fools on this board want to silence.

Poor food colourant addict bastard.  I see your pain.


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