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From: m a r c
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 28 Jan 2009 09:47:15
Message: <49806ff3@news.povray.org>

497fee71@news.povray.org...
> Yes, dead grass would make it look better. More soil showing would also 
> help. The water idea is good, but too much iridescence on the water's 
> surface could give the impression of an oil spill :S
>
Or  a very thin layer of decaying organic fat materials :-)

Marc


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 28 Jan 2009 11:05:46
Message: <4980825a$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:11:58 -0800, stbenge wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:24:04 -0800, stbenge wrote:
>> 
>>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:03:14 -0800, stbenge wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I run a lot of tests over here, though very few ever make it to the
>>>>> public. I figured this image was worth posting, even if it is
>>>>> unfinished.
>>>> It brings to mind one of the episodes of CBS Radio Mystery Theater
>>>> that I listened to earlier today - entitled "Escape!  Escape!".
>>>>
>>>> The upshot was some escaped convicts ended up being shrunk down to
>>>> ant- size and placed in a terrarium.
>>> That sounds like a fun show to listen to. Where might I find it?
>> 
>> I found the recordings on one of the more popular torrent sites.  The
>> shows date from 1974 (it's radio drama), about 1400 of them in total
>> over 9 years.
> 
> Darn! I was hoping CBS still had radio shows :(

There was an attempt at a revival in about 1998 IIRC, but it only went 
for a little while (and I haven't managed to find those recordings, 
either).  I remember listening to these on WCCO radio in Minneapolis as a 
kid - though I don't remember any of the stories specifically.

They were broadcast on the CBS Radio Network; the recordings I found are 
from radio stations all over the country (I've noted a station in 
Portland, OR; WOR out of New York; and KSL out of Salt Lake City so far), 
sometimes with commercials, sometimes without.  Occasionally with news at 
the beginning or end of the episode as well.  That's actually been fairly 
interesting to listen to as well, as the timing of the first episodes 
comes from right around Watergate and the energy crisis from the 70s.

Some of the episodes are also sourced from records used for broadcasts to 
US Servicemen abroad as I understand it.

Jim


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 28 Jan 2009 17:15:00
Message: <web.4980d89f7624d145a72d92f0@news.povray.org>
Luminous Bloom point pattern, I just had to look.

Still wondering what you're running in your veins to make you such a genius.

Find a source for Ampakines yet?

http://www.nootropics.com/refs/

OMG what life could be if people had the balls to stomp out greedy government
turd-sandwiches


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 28 Jan 2009 21:01:09
Message: <49810de5$1@news.povray.org>
stbenge nous illumina en ce 2009-01-26 21:03 -->
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I run a lot of tests over here, though very few ever make it to the 
> public. I figured this image was worth posting, even if it is unfinished.
> 
> Grass, rocks. The rocks are a single height_field, tested and created 
> using a crackle form chart I devised some time ago, and should post 
> someday. I gave the HF a proximity pattern, which I then used to give it 
> a more interesting texture.
> 
> The grass is a clump composed of a single mesh which was copied, rotated 
> and translated randomly. The clumps were placed upon the HF using 
> trace(), and only appear in cracks. This was accomplished using the 
> aforementioned proximity pattern.
> 
> I'm pretty happy with the way it's turning out, and hope to add 
> something to make the scene more interesting. Coyote scat would be 
> relevant, but I'm not sure about the appropriateness of adding that :)
> 
> Comments and questions are always welcome, though I'm not too sure about 
> releasing the code, which is a mess.
> 
> Sam
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
One of the best close up grass view to date.
Some peoples may mistake that image for a photo.

-- 
Alain
-------------------------------------------------
You know you've been raytracing too long when you resign the fact that printing 
uses CMYK instead of RGB to one of those tests God gave to Job; otherwise life 
would be too painful to go on.
     -- Taps a.k.a. Tapio Vocadlo


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From: Larry Hudson
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 28 Jan 2009 21:30:24
Message: <498114c0@news.povray.org>
stbenge wrote:
> Scat is interesting stuff. You get an idea of what the animal ate. I 
> once saw coyote scat with prickly pear berry seeds in it. If you don't 
> already know, prickly pears are cacti, and the berries have many thorns 
> on them. Prickly pears have both large and fine thorns, and the small 
> ones do not come out easily. Coyotes are desperate creatures.
> 

Just for general info, here are a couple links to descriptions and 
pictures of prickly pear cactus:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opuntia
http://www.desertusa.com/magoct97/oct_pa/du_prkpear.html

It's said that they make some very good jams/jellies.  (Never had a 
chance to try any myself though...)    :-(

      -=- Larry -=-


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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 29 Jan 2009 01:13:09
Message: <498148f5@news.povray.org>
alphaQuad wrote:
> Luminous Bloom point pattern, I just had to look.

Yep, I had to fill the disc evenly :)

> Still wondering what you're running in your veins to make you such a genius.
> 
> Find a source for Ampakines yet?
> 
> http://www.nootropics.com/refs/

I was never looking for that. I don't think it's such a great idea to be 
messing with glutamate activity directly. Glutamic acid agonists *and* 
antagonists both pose different problems. Both can lead to cell death. 
Granted, there are many types of glutamate receptors, and many drugs 
affecting them which are benign. But look here. It's a crumb leading to 
potentially damning information regarding ampakines:

http://www.glgroup.com/News/CX717--Cortex-Pharmaceuticals-Ampakine-Drug-for-ADHD-Struck-Down-by-FDA-17844.html

I'm sure the hole goes deeper, but I'm not terribly interested in 
nootropics. I take that back. I like coffee.

> OMG what life could be if people had the balls to stomp out greedy government
> turd-sandwiches

That could get messy, and you'd better have a good case.

I know we need to have some of the drug laws changed though; minor drug 
offenders are still going to jail with violent criminals. And for a less 
harmful drug than tobacco or alcohol... Both sides are still advancing 
though, so don't think nothing is being done. It's just moving at a 
snail's pace.

It's good to remember that not all government offices are corrupt. But 
the ones that are stink more than the rest. I get the feeling that a lot 
of people in the loop stand idle while dirty deeds are afoot :(

Sam


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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 29 Jan 2009 01:31:21
Message: <49814d39@news.povray.org>
Larry Hudson wrote:
> stbenge wrote:
>> Scat is interesting stuff. You get an idea of what the animal ate. I 
>> once saw coyote scat with prickly pear berry seeds in it. If you don't 
>> already know, prickly pears are cacti, and the berries have many 
>> thorns on them. Prickly pears have both large and fine thorns, and the 
>> small ones do not come out easily. Coyotes are desperate creatures.
>>
> 
> Just for general info, here are a couple links to descriptions and 
> pictures of prickly pear cactus:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opuntia
> http://www.desertusa.com/magoct97/oct_pa/du_prkpear.html

Very informative. I didn't know that prickly pears have such reactive 
anthers. Pretty cool. Plus, I got a reminder about what anthers are ;)

> It's said that they make some very good jams/jellies.  (Never had a 
> chance to try any myself though...)    :-(

Never had the jam, but I've had the berries. A little on the slimy side, 
but otherwise delicious. They might go well in sweet bread, if harvested 
at the right time and used in small amounts.

Sam


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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 29 Jan 2009 01:32:50
Message: <49814d92$1@news.povray.org>
Alain wrote:
> One of the best close up grass view to date.
> Some peoples may mistake that image for a photo.

Why, thank you :)

I should work on it again, before it becomes a Cold Scene :/


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 29 Jan 2009 01:50:10
Message: <498151a2@news.povray.org>
stbenge wrote:
> Never had the jam, but I've had the berries. A little on the slimy side, 

Not as slimy as the scat.

   -- Darren (who lives where the coyotes poop on the lawn)


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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 29 Jan 2009 01:53:23
Message: <49815263$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> stbenge wrote:
>> Never had the jam, but I've had the berries. A little on the slimy side, 
> 
> Not as slimy as the scat.

Don't eat the brown berries.


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