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From: Christian Froeschlin
Subject: Re: CB Model Pro
Date: 11 Jan 2009 06:45:14
Message: <4969dbca@news.povray.org>
clipka wrote:
> Christian Froeschlin <chr### [at] chrfrde> wrote:
>> http://www.cbmodelpro.com/
> 
> They don't say what their licensing model will be once they leave beta phase, do
> they?

It looks like a commercial application, but as far as
I understand you will be allowed to operate the beta
indefinitely after registering it. It initially comes
with a time lock ... but so does POV-Ray 3.7b ;)


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From: Christian Froeschlin
Subject: Re: CB Model Pro
Date: 11 Jan 2009 06:47:37
Message: <4969dc59$1@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:

>> Naughty?  How do you mean?
>>
> I would have understood it if Christian was American. Now I am as 
> surprised as you are.

Yes, well, its more the other way round, when posting in
a public newsgroup you don't know who is easily offended.
I recall even an IRTC winner with a nude female ghost
got a bit of a negative comment for that ;)


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: CB Model Pro
Date: 11 Jan 2009 07:27:18
Message: <4969e5a6$1@news.povray.org>
"Christian Froeschlin" <chr### [at] chrfrde> schreef in bericht 
news:4969dbca@news.povray.org...
> It looks like a commercial application, but as far as
> I understand you will be allowed to operate the beta
> indefinitely after registering it. It initially comes
> with a time lock ... but so does POV-Ray 3.7b ;)


probably not be very expensive once beyond the beta stage, as they want 
[quote] to promote the discovery and use of 3D to all kinds of consumers, in 
particular young users [unquote].

Thomas


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: CB Model Pro
Date: 11 Jan 2009 07:33:16
Message: <4969E771.3090109@hotmail.com>
On 11-Jan-09 12:50, Christian Froeschlin wrote:
> andrel wrote:
> 
>>> Naughty?  How do you mean?
>>>
>> I would have understood it if Christian was American. Now I am as 
>> surprised as you are.
> 
> Yes, well, its more the other way round, when posting in
> a public newsgroup you don't know who is easily offended.
> I recall even an IRTC winner with a nude female ghost
> got a bit of a negative comment for that ;)

Ah, OK. I think the preferred way is to make that clear in the subject. 
As in "CB Model Pro [mild nudity]" or even in this case "CB Model Pro 
[possible to interpret as mild nudity with a dirty mind]". So easily 
offended people can decide not to look, now you read it while the 
picture is already on the screen.


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From: Christian Froeschlin
Subject: Re: CB Model Pro
Date: 11 Jan 2009 08:15:04
Message: <4969f0d8$1@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot wrote:
> "Christian Froeschlin" <chr### [at] chrfrde> schreef in bericht 
> news:4969dbca@news.povray.org...
>> It looks like a commercial application, but as far as
>> I understand you will be allowed to operate the beta
>> indefinitely after registering it. It initially comes
>> with a time lock ... but so does POV-Ray 3.7b ;)
> 

> probably not be very expensive once beyond the beta stage, as they want 
> [quote] to promote the discovery and use of 3D to all kinds of consumers, in 
> particular young users [unquote].

Yes, apparently it's based on a technology they initially
developped for kids, which suits my skills just fine ;)

   http://www.cosmicblobs.com/

The only thing I can't quite understand is their interest in
spreading the beta and asking for feedback via the forums, but
limiting forum access (even view) to existing customers. I'm
still searching for any kind of email contact to ask if that
is intentional, as I already found a reproducible crash
which I thought it would be nice of me to report.


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From: Christian Froeschlin
Subject: Re: CB Model Pro
Date: 11 Jan 2009 08:21:46
Message: <4969f26a$1@news.povray.org>
Christian Froeschlin wrote:

> I'm still searching for any kind of email contact

I'm so blind, there is a support email address on the
forum redirect page ;)


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: CB Model Pro
Date: 11 Jan 2009 10:03:59
Message: <496a0a5f$1@news.povray.org>
Christian Froeschlin wrote:

> 
> It actually has a very nice user interface and was seriously
> fun to play with. Not sure if it has enough control for those
> people who actually *can* model, but a nice way to get
> organic shapes for someone like me.
> 

Yes I think that is about right.  It offers the next 'level of 
abstraction,' so to speak, such that the user does not worry about 
underlying geometry but rather manipulates only the look of the figure.
I think an early tool that does something like this was Z-Brush. I have 
not looked at Z-Brush in years and I assume, that, as a professional 
tool, it would also let you access the actual geometry if you wanted to. 
  You can get Wings3D to do some of these things, but again, you have to 
jump through hoops, but again, you get more control.  (Imagine if the 
'Poke' tool could be made any shape, not just a sphere.)

The tool is clearly aimed at children. For grown-ups this looks like a 
great tool in the keep-it-simple vein. Your first effort has a charming 
primitive art feel.

Notice that it cannot import externally produced geometry, btw.


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From: Christian Froeschlin
Subject: Re: CB Model Pro
Date: 11 Jan 2009 10:29:18
Message: <496a104e$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Charter wrote:

> Your first effort has a charming primitive art feel.

Thanks, I'll try to feel flattered by that ;)

> Notice that it cannot import externally produced geometry, btw.

Yes, although it can import simple obj files which are meant
to be a control mesh for the freeform surfaces. But I'm more
interested in getting something to export anyway. Seems like
I finally need to have a look at Poseray after all.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: CB Model Pro
Date: 11 Jan 2009 11:08:44
Message: <496a198c$1@news.povray.org>
"Christian Froeschlin" <chr### [at] chrfrde> schreef in bericht 
news:496a104e$1@news.povray.org...
Seems like
> I finally need to have a look at Poseray after all.

That is a *sine qua non* (latin for: not possible without (very free 
translation) )

Thomas


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: CB Model Pro
Date: 11 Jan 2009 12:42:27
Message: <496a2f83$1@news.povray.org>
Christian Froeschlin wrote:
> Jim Charter wrote:
> 
>> Your first effort has a charming primitive art feel.
> 
> 
> Thanks, I'll try to feel flattered by that ;)
> 

You should, actually, I strive for that look with only partial success.


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