Is that a character from Hamtaro?

Good compositing of 2D clip art, it turned out very well.  I sometimes 
use Pov-ray like this as well, and it always feels like swatting a fly 
with a Buick, but somehow often ends up being the easiest way I know to 
get it done.

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Sorry if that sounded accusatory; I was just trying to understand what 
was going on in the image.

It's cool. :-)

-- 
William Tracy
afi### [at] gmailcom wtr### [at] calpolyedu

You know you've been raytracing too long when you're watching Bay Watch 
on the telly, see Pamela A. walking by and shout out "Great bump mapping!"

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William Tracy wrote:
> Sorry if that sounded accusatory; I was just trying to understand what 
> was going on in the image.
> 
> It's cool. :-)

It's okay. No flames were thrown :)

Sam

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Kevin Wampler wrote:
> Is that a character from Hamtaro?

Indeed it is.

> Good compositing of 2D clip art, it turned out very well.

Thank you!

> I sometimes 
> use Pov-ray like this as well, and it always feels like swatting a fly 
> with a Buick, but somehow often ends up being the easiest way I know to 
> get it done.

Lol, it does seem like overkill sometimes. When you consider the 
options, it always turns out that POV is much more configurable. You're 
not stuck with bad choices. Things can always be changed and 
experimented with. Plus, you don't have horrible refresh rates. If I had 
done this completely with Illustrator, I would have dealt with horrible 
redraw rates which would have slowed everything down. With POV I can 
just render a tiny section of the screen, or the whole screen (but 
smaller), to get an idea of what the final outcome will be. Gotta love it :)

Sam

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Samuel Benge wrote:
> It's okay. No flames were thrown :)
> 
> Sam

If I came across as annoyed, it's because I've been interested in how 
people do 'toon rendering in POV, and was slightly disappointed to find 
that wasn't what this was. :-P

I get too lazy to draw cartoons by hand. ;-)

-- 
William Tracy
afi### [at] gmailcom wtr### [at] calpolyedu

You know you've been raytracing too long when you boot your computer 
with multiple OSs to see which loads the new version of POV-Ray faster.

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"William Tracy" <wtr### [at] calpolyedu> schreef in bericht 
news:46de3035$1@news.povray.org...
>
> If I came across as annoyed, it's because I've been interested in how 
> people do 'toon rendering in POV, and was slightly disappointed to find 
> that wasn't what this was. :-P

No, no! I didn't feel you were annoyed. Samuel's image reminded me how 
universally in a sense, POV-Ray can be made to work.

>
> I get too lazy to draw cartoons by hand. ;-)

Shame on you!!  :-)


Thomas

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William Tracy wrote:
> Samuel Benge wrote:
>> It's okay. No flames were thrown :)
 >
> If I came across as annoyed, it's because I've been interested in how 
> people do 'toon rendering in POV, and was slightly disappointed to find 
> that wasn't what this was. :-P
>

I do plan on making such a render in the future... if I do, you can be 
sure I'll share the source ;)

> I get too lazy to draw cartoons by hand. ;-)

What operating system are you running? Depending on the system, you 
could get a nice vector manipulation program for free. It would make 
things easier in that department. I used Adobe Illustrator (not free, 
obviously) for Boss, but would have used InkScape if it worked under 
Windows 98. InkScape is supposed to be really nice... possibly rivaling 
Illustrator.

Sam

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Samuel Benge wrote:
> What operating system are you running? Depending on the system, you 
> could get a nice vector manipulation program for free. It would make 
> things easier in that department. I used Adobe Illustrator (not free, 
> obviously) for Boss, but would have used InkScape if it worked under 
> Windows 98. InkScape is supposed to be really nice... possibly rivaling 
> Illustrator.

I'm on Linux, and have doodled with InkScape before, though not enough 
to really learn it. (I'm still lost when it comes to anything more 
complicated than geometric shapes...)

I keep daydreaming about starting some kind of webcomic "one of these 
days." (I have too many programming projects going on, as it is.) I 
really like the idea of being able to build a 3D model and render it 
from different angles, as opposed to re-drawing it again for each scene, 
hence the lazy bit. :-)

So, I keep watching the different macros that people come up with for 
toon-shading in POV.

-- 
William Tracy
afi### [at] gmailcom wtr### [at] calpolyedu

You know you've been raytracing too long when you spend more time 
"tweaking" a texture than modelling the rest of the scene.
Twyst

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William Tracy wrote:
> I'm on Linux, and have doodled with InkScape before, though not enough 
> to really learn it. (I'm still lost when it comes to anything more 
> complicated than geometric shapes...)

Splines are easy to use, once you get used to them. I used Macromedia 
Freehand (which is like Illustrator or InkScape) almost exclusively for 
three years with one company. It didn't take me nearly that long to 
master it. After awhile, it became like a third hand to me :)

> I keep daydreaming about starting some kind of webcomic "one of these 
> days."

Lol. I still need to write a tutorial "one of these days" !

> (I have too many programming projects going on, as it is.) I 
> really like the idea of being able to build a 3D model and render it 
> from different angles, as opposed to re-drawing it again for each scene, 
> hence the lazy bit. :-)
> 
> So, I keep watching the different macros that people come up with for 
> toon-shading in POV.

Do you know about "smooth-shifting"? I don't know what it's called in 
programs other than LightWave Modeler, but basically it shifts the 
outside of the mesh in or out by a given value. For example a torus 
could be made into either a thin ring or a very fat donut. The reason I 
mention this is because an extra copy of a smooth-shifted mesh could be 
used effectively for a cartoon outline of the actual thing. I hope to 
eventually post an image showing that.

Sam

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My son has found it lovely ...and now it's waiting for Hamtaro!
;-)
Paolo

>"Samuel Benge" <stb### [at] THIShotmailcom> wrote:
> Rendered in a single pass with one point light. No aa or focal blur.
>
> Render time: 7m:22s.
>
> Questions and comments, welcome as always!
>
> Sam
>

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