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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Preview 06: Imperial Carrier
Date: 28 Apr 2006 20:27:37
Message: <4452b2f9@news.povray.org>
Here: Front view of the imperial carrier SENECA. The command tower in 
the middle has been completed, but there are still many details for me 
to develop for the two side bays and parts of the ship center.

Background:

The SENECA is a giant ship and capable of carrying thousands of crafts 
of all sizes. Inside its two side bays the SENECA can carry a view large 
cruisers (as a mobile space station) and dozens or hundreds of the 
smaller ship classes. Human crew is not neccessary as these imperial 
space carriers are fully automatized. In resource-rich environments such 
as asteroid fields or planets, it can even automatical harvest resources 
required, automatically assemble probes and smaller vessels, and launch 
them on a permanent base. This way, it can also repair itself.
The SENECA does not use any chemical propulsion system which is the 
reason you won't see any open parts. The SENECA uses an internal 
gravitron drive. The SENECA "was" built shortly before the jumping drive 
came in use and made such huge long-range ships obsolete.

Scene File:

Already now, the file is designed to be used for animations, and I did 
already a brief animation of ten seconds. The disadvantage is that each 
frame takes its time due the many divisions I have to do, since I do all 
coding "by hand", without any 3D editor. No polygon shapes used, just 
divided standard shapes.

I also did a starbase which was partially hand-coded and partially 
automatically generated through a self-written computer program. I might 
use that program for some parts of the two side bays of the SENECA, as 
well. But not sure yet.

Further intentions: creating jumper ships and many smaller vessels.

Sven Littkowski


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From: Larry Hudson
Subject: Re: SF: Preview 03: Imperial Carrier
Date: 28 Apr 2006 23:41:43
Message: <4452e077@news.povray.org>
Sven Littkowski wrote:
> Here: Bird's view on the middle front section of the imperial carrier 
> SENECA.

These two attached images are simply cropped details from your preview 3 
and 4 images.

Just curious -- was the "happy face" intentional?

And when I enlarge the second image I can see it's just a hatch of some 
sort and shadows.  But with a normal, unexpanded view it looks (to me) 
like a figure of a man holding a weapon.

This is NOT a criticism of your very impressive images and I'm not 
suggesting changes.  But I was somewhat amused at these two details.

      -=- Larry -=-


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: SF: Preview 03: Imperial Carrier
Date: 29 Apr 2006 10:38:42
Message: <44537a72@news.povray.org>
Hello Larry,

never mind - I welcome criticism but I also understand easily that you just 
mention it because of the funny nature of your observation.

Yes, you are right, these details look truly the way you have mentioned. But 
that's entirely unintentionally, and also just based on the perspective.
The "smiley" is just a superstructure meant for conferences or meetings. 
What you see are the roof windows of that structure.

And the "warrior" is caused by sensor arrays and antennas inside a large 
bay.

It is nice that someone looks to my images, and I am happy to receive a 
first feedback. I want to invite you all to give me more of your feedbacks!

Greetings,

Sven Littkowski




"Larry Hudson" <org### [at] yahoocom> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:4452e077@news.povray.org...
> Sven Littkowski wrote:
>> Here: Bird's view on the middle front section of the imperial carrier
>> SENECA.
>
> These two attached images are simply cropped details from your preview 3
> and 4 images.
>
> Just curious -- was the "happy face" intentional?
>
> And when I enlarge the second image I can see it's just a hatch of some
> sort and shadows.  But with a normal, unexpanded view it looks (to me)
> like a figure of a man holding a weapon.
>
> This is NOT a criticism of your very impressive images and I'm not
> suggesting changes.  But I was somewhat amused at these two details.
>
>      -=- Larry -=-
>


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Preview 07: Imperial Carrier
Date: 29 Apr 2006 10:43:46
Message: <44537ba2@news.povray.org>
Here: Front view of the imperial carrier SENECA. I have started now the 
detail works on the side bays.


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From: Roman Reiner
Subject: Re: Preview 07: Imperial Carrier
Date: 29 Apr 2006 13:30:01
Message: <web.4453a23cdda5ea50dad8fec00@news.povray.org>
I'm sorry i can't see it. i just get htm files with strange image links like
src="cid:052201c66b12$5c5167a0$16b2a8c0@SVEN" but i don't see anything.
Is this a problem on my side?
I'm curious to see the images!

Regards Roman


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From: Marc Jacquier
Subject: Re: Preview 03: Imperial Carrier
Date: 29 Apr 2006 13:40:19
Message: <4453a503$1@news.povray.org>

news:445295e2@news.povray.org...
>Here: Bird's view on the middle front section of the imperial carrier
SENECA.


That's impressively Imperial indeed :-)

The little reserve I can have is that you should vary slightly the color en
intensity of the bay lights.
Regarding those bays, I thonk anti-aliasing has problems with hi rgb value
pixels, which version of povray are you using?

Marc


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: Preview 07: Imperial Carrier
Date: 29 Apr 2006 15:46:44
Message: <4453c2a4@news.povray.org>
Hi Roman,

hmmm, sounds unusual. Let me ask you: do you see here any other image file? 
Nearly each topic here has an image file. If you cannot see any graphics 
here, you might check your settings. Do you use an e-mail program such as 
Eudora or Outlook (Express)? Or do you use a web browser?

Later,

Sven

"Roman Reiner" <lim### [at] gmxde> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:web.4453a23cdda5ea50dad8fec00@news.povray.org...
> I'm sorry i can't see it. i just get htm files with strange image links 
> like
> src="cid:052201c66b12$5c5167a0$16b2a8c0@SVEN" but i don't see anything.
> Is this a problem on my side?
> I'm curious to see the images!
>
> Regards Roman
>


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: Preview 03: Imperial Carrier
Date: 29 Apr 2006 15:51:01
Message: <4453c3a5$1@news.povray.org>
Hi Marc,

the very first of these previews was done with the full version of POV-Ray: 
v 3.6, but all other previews (02 - 07) were done with the bbeta version of 
the new POV-Ray, version 3.7.0 Beta 12a.

There are none of these "spot lights" remaining when using the beta version. 
On the other hand, they say that radiosity and other features are not yet 
fully completed which might be the only reason why the spot lights have 
disappeared.

Greetings,

Sven




"Marc Jacquier" <jac### [at] wanadoofr> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:4453a503$1@news.povray.org...
>

> news:445295e2@news.povray.org...
>>Here: Bird's view on the middle front section of the imperial carrier
> SENECA.
>
>
> That's impressively Imperial indeed :-)
>
> The little reserve I can have is that you should vary slightly the color 
> en
> intensity of the bay lights.
> Regarding those bays, I thonk anti-aliasing has problems with hi rgb value
> pixels, which version of povray are you using?
>
> Marc
>
>


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From: Roman Reiner
Subject: Re: Preview 07: Imperial Carrier
Date: 29 Apr 2006 18:55:00
Message: <web.4453ee0adda5ea50dad8fec00@news.povray.org>
Hi Sven

I'm viewing this newsgroup with a web browser (i tried FireFox and IE6). i
see all the images on this page. The one of Larry above as well. Usually i
see:

  Attachments:
  Download '<filename>.jpg' (<size> KB)

  Preview of image '<filename>.jpg'
  [image]

In your case i just see:

  Attachments:
  Download 'iso-8859-1' (1 KB)

(one has 4KB but that's it)

When i download this files they contain html code for example:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html;
charset=iso-8859-1">
<META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2873" name=GENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=#ede2cd background="">
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Here: Rear view of the
middle front
section of the imperial carrier SENECA containing the panoramic quarters
and a
large sensor bay. There are still many details to come, such as small
surface
structures, antennas and others.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><IMG alt="" hspace=0
src="cid:054a01c66b18$9c083ad0$16b2a8c0@SVEN"
align=baseline border=0></DIV></BODY></HTML>

The src links in the image tags (if they are links at all) don't work.

Has anyone ever experienced similar problems? I have no idea what goes wrong
here.

Regards Roman




"Sven Littkowski" <sve### [at] jamaica-focuscom> wrote:
> Hi Roman,
>
> hmmm, sounds unusual. Let me ask you: do you see here any other image file?
> Nearly each topic here has an image file. If you cannot see any graphics
> here, you might check your settings. Do you use an e-mail program such as
> Eudora or Outlook (Express)? Or do you use a web browser?
>
> Later,
>
> Sven


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: Preview 07: Imperial Carrier
Date: 29 Apr 2006 19:06:40
Message: <4453f180@news.povray.org>
Hello Roman,

That is a problem I am not familiar with, I am very sorry.  I see all the 
contents by using my e-mail program (Outlook Express) which i simply 
configured to be signed up for the POV-Ray newsgroups.

Sven



"Roman Reiner" <lim### [at] gmxde> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:web.4453ee0adda5ea50dad8fec00@news.povray.org...
> Hi Sven
>
> I'm viewing this newsgroup with a web browser (i tried FireFox and IE6). i
> see all the images on this page. The one of Larry above as well. Usually i
> see:
>
>  Attachments:
>  Download '<filename>.jpg' (<size> KB)
>
>  Preview of image '<filename>.jpg'
>  [image]
>
> In your case i just see:
>
>  Attachments:
>  Download 'iso-8859-1' (1 KB)
>
> (one has 4KB but that's it)
>
> When i download this files they contain html code for example:
>
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> <HTML><HEAD>
> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html;
> charset=iso-8859-1">
> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2873" name=GENERATOR>
> <STYLE></STYLE>
> </HEAD>
> <BODY bgColor=#ede2cd background="">
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Here: Rear view of the
> middle front
> section of the imperial carrier SENECA containing the panoramic quarters
> and a
> large sensor bay. There are still many details to come, such as small
> surface
> structures, antennas and others.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><IMG alt="" hspace=0
> src="cid:054a01c66b18$9c083ad0$16b2a8c0@SVEN"
> align=baseline border=0></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>
> The src links in the image tags (if they are links at all) don't work.
>
> Has anyone ever experienced similar problems? I have no idea what goes 
> wrong
> here.
>
> Regards Roman
>
>
>
>
> "Sven Littkowski" <sve### [at] jamaica-focuscom> wrote:
>> Hi Roman,
>>
>> hmmm, sounds unusual. Let me ask you: do you see here any other image 
>> file?
>> Nearly each topic here has an image file. If you cannot see any graphics
>> here, you might check your settings. Do you use an e-mail program such as
>> Eudora or Outlook (Express)? Or do you use a web browser?
>>
>> Later,
>>
>> Sven
>
>
>


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